Bipartisan effort in Congress underway to restore "Downpayment Assistance" scam

(promoted by John)

Crossposted from Source of Title

Leave it to the geniuses in Congress-- they already want to undo the smartest move they've made all year.

As part of The Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008 , signed into law by President Bush in June, Congress correctly banned all forms of seller-financed downpayment assistance for FHA-insured mortgages:

SEC. 2113. CASH INVESTMENT REQUIREMENT AND PROHIBITION OF SELLER-FUNDED DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE 
  •   (A) IN GENERAL- A mortgage insured under this section shall be executed by a mortgagor who shall have paid, in cash or its equivalent, on account of the property an amount equal to not less than 3.5 percent of the appraised value of the property or such larger amount as the Secretary may determine.
  • (C) PROHIBITED SOURCES- In no case shall the funds required by subparagraph (A) consist, in whole or in part, of funds provided by any of the following parties before, during, or after closing of the property sale:
      (i) The seller or any other person or entity that financially benefits from the transaction.
      (ii) Any third party or entity that is reimbursed, directly or indirectly, by any of the parties described in clause (i).

This part of the law went into effect October 1st, discontinuing the use of these sham downpayments that have already cost taxpayers $4.6 billion in unexpected losses due to excess defaults on FHA-insured mortgages this year alone, according to HUD Secretary Brian Montgomery.

But to the surprise of approximately nobody, there is already a movement underway in Congress to abolish this common-sense return to a true 3% downpayment requirement for FHA-insured loans.  Representative Al Green (not the R&B singer, but the Democrat from Texas whose largest campaign donor is the National Association of Realtors ) has introduced a bill that would once again make seller-financed downpayment assistance legal for FHA loans.  In a legislative environment where Democrats and Republicans can't agree on the color of the sky, no less than 26 sponsors from both sides of the aisle are eager for the taxpayers to once again back mortgages with fake downpayments.

It's not like these folks don't have some suspicions about how downpayment assistance works.  Consider this exchange in a House Financial Services Committee hearing in 2005 between Congressman Pat Tiberi (R-OH) and Robert Newman, CEO of AmeriDream, a major downpayment assistance provider:

Mr. TIBERI. ....My neighbor last year sold their house for $168,000 or $169,000. Their house was listed in the low-$160s. They ended up selling to a first-time homebuyer who participated ... in a program similar to AmeriDream... The seller... ended up gifting to the program and in exchange for that gifting, they raised the price of their home to around $168,000, which was then financed by the buyer through this gift program. Is that how it is normally done?

Mr. NEWMAN. That is not something that we condone at all. We do not advocate that. We depend tremendously on two people in the transaction, really three. It is the lender to qualify the buyer and the terms. The lender is also going to get the appropriate appraisal for the property. After all of that is done, then they reach out to us for the gift amount. We are not involved in the qualification of the buyer nor are we involved in the listing or the appraisal of the property. We do not condone, and we do not advertise and we do not do any outreach on the product to suggest to individuals to increase the price of the home.

Notice the sleight of hand in the answer by the AmeriDream executive.  Congressman Tiberi's question was not whether AmeriDream "condoned", "advertised", "did outreach on", "suggested", or "advertised" the practice of sellers raising the selling price of their home in exchange for contributions to downpayment assistance "charities".  The Congressman asked whether the practice was "normal".  Newman knows darn well that this is how it is normally done, and being under oath, he never denies it. 

Unfortunately, Tiberi never followed up on his promising line of questioning.  It appears that he just didn't think it was that important an issue that FHA was insuring loans to borrowers with no equity and no skin in the game.  Here's what he says later in a conversation with Janis Bowdler, Housing Policy Analyst for La Raza:

Ms. BOWDLER. I just wanted to take an opportunity to stick up for the counseling process just a little bit.

Mr. TIBERI. You do not have to with me. It is in the bill, required in the bill. [Laughter.]  That is why I argue that this program is actually going to be stronger than the 3 percent down program.

It takes a very special kind of optimism to believe that an hour or two of mortgage counseling is "stronger" than a real 3% downpayment paid for by the buyer out of their own savings.  But this is the dreamworld in which Congressman Tiberi still resides, as evidenced by his appearance as a cosponsor on the latest bill to once again legalize Enron-style downpayments. 

 

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Good diary

I'd be someone who would be helped by low down-payment programs, but in this case they are not advisable.

As home prices fall, those without a stake in their homes will simply walk away from their mortgages. I wouldn't do this, but others probably would (and already do).

There is room for down payment assistance in conjunction with HUD homes and FHA loans, but there needs to be a way to recover the cost if the borrower defaults on their loan.

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There are types of downpayment assistance that are not scams

HUD, at various times, has had true downpayment assistance grant programs that actually give downpayment money to homebuyers from a pool of government-appropriated money.  See here for a press release on such a program.   While I question the effectiveness of these programs and believe it is wise for the government to require the buyer to have some "skin in the game" for all loans which it insures thru FHA, at least these programs actually improve the homebuyer's equity position in the home by the amount of the grant and thus are not scams like the seller-financed downpayment assistance programs. 

The HUD-financed downpayment assistance programs are small when compared to the private seller-financed downpayment assistance scams, and aren't really a big deal one way or another.  I almost am tempted to believe that these small HUD programs have been created to give a fig leaf of legitimacy to the concept of "downpayment assistance" so that FHA could get around its own statutory downpayment requirements and tap the big market of no-down-payment mortgages via these private "charities". 

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Maybe I'm old fashioned

As home prices fall, those without a stake in their homes will simply walk away from their mortgages.

But I prefer not to be homelss, personally. It's not like there are lenders lining up to offer new loans to people who just ditched out of their last one.

People who regard houses as investments rather than homes are really starting to piss me off. I'm starting to think maybe there should be limits on the number of homes an individual can own to stop this kind of douchebaggery. Like say: 1.

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Homes make a tempting invetment

when market forces are coaxed and twisted to give the appearance of an ever-appreciating housing market. See my intelligence-insulting diary .

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You don't need to be homeless

But I prefer not to be homelss, personally. It's not like there are lenders lining up to offer new loans to people who just ditched out of their last one.

Actually there are news stories of people who have the means doing exactly that.

Lets say I have a home, and I bought it with an interest only option and zero down (this is more common than you'd think in some of the hotter markets). After adjustments, I owe about 125% of what the home is worth on the market today. Lets further assume I have enough money to put down 20% on a house down the street, which has recently been foreclosed upon. The bank gives me a proper 30-year fixed subject to my down payment. Now I have 2 homes. Since I live in a non-recourse state (they can only take the collateral if I default), I simply just stop paying on my first home. After all, I'm going to be upside-down on that mortgage for several years, so why should I pay for it?

Obviously only richer Americans can afford to do this, but that doesn't stop it from happening.

People who regard houses as investments rather than homes are really starting to piss me off.

Yes. Houses are places to keep your stuff, not a retirement strategy. However, as John points out downthread, people look for the best return on their money. If it is in housing, they'll buy houses. I think we need tax and economic policy that discourages houses-as-investments. That might possibly be simply a repeal of mortgage interest deductions, etc. or it might mean extra incentives in the other direction.

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clarifications

1) I should have pointed out that I wasn't pissed off at you, you were just making an observation about certain people and those people are the ones I'd like to kick repeatedly in the crotch for being douchebags.

2)

Actually there are news stories of people who have the means doing exactly that.

Sure if you are wealthy its an option. Which gets us back to the disparity between a house as a place to live versus a house as an investment.

3)

Yes. Houses are places to keep your stuff, not a retirement strategy. However, as John points out downthread, people look for the best return on their money.

because capitalism is about encouraging the maximum douchbaggery possible, apparently. The concept of not being a dipshit just doesn't occur when there's a profit to be made. Remind me how the ^%$# anyone defends this mentality again...

4)

I think we need tax and economic policy that discourages houses-as-investments. That might possibly be simply a repeal of mortgage interest deductions, etc. or it might mean extra incentives in the other direction.

I don't know, rather than bribing people not to be a-holes seems much more judicious to simply stomp the offenders into the dirt, economically speaking.

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Re: clarifications

1) I should have pointed out that I wasn't pissed off at you

I never thought for a moment you were talking about me.

because capitalism is about encouraging the maximum douchbaggery possible, apparently. The concept of not being a dipshit just doesn't occur when there's a profit to be made.

For the proper values of douchbag and dipshit, I'd agree. Social costs and "what's right" do not enter into making a decent return. For instance, even if I knew buying Wal-mart stock would give me a very nice return, I wouldn't do it for the usual reasons associated with Wal-mart. Others, and probably a sizable majority would do it because they're looking to make the number in their account as large as possible.

Robert Reich makes the point in "Supercapitalism" that many people fund both sides of the war. They own Exxon-Mobil stock which gives them a decent return on their money yet vote for politicians or desire regulations that would cause their stock price to drop. Furthermore, E-M uses its profits to actively lobby against regulations that these same stockholders want. The stockholders then give their money from their returns on E-M stock to the politicians who want to regulate and/or tax E-M. And this is the circle of life.

I don't know, rather than bribing people not to be a-holes seems much more judicious to simply stomp the offenders into the dirt, economically speaking.

As long as humans continue to be the plague species we are, there will always be a-holes. Don't count on a Star Trek-style working-solely-for-self-actualization civilization during your life time.

I never broke the law; I am the law! -- George W. Bush Judge Dredd
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Excellent....

I never thought for a moment you were talking about me.

Good, but it was worth making explicit given the medium.

For the proper values of douchbag and dipshit, I'd agree.

Given all the harping recently about proper "valuations" this statement cracked me up.

Furthermore, E-M uses its profits to actively lobby against regulations that these same stockholders want.

About ten years ago I made a similar argument about lobbying in general (how a person ostensibly supporting several lobbying groups can end up fighting with themselves as far as influence). Anyway, yeah I know what you mean.

As long as humans continue to be the plague species we are, there will always be a-holes. Don't count on a Star Trek-style working-solely-for-self-actualization civilization during your life time.

I know, I know. Fundamentally though anarchism is a very optimistic philosophy. I believe we can be so much more than we are if only we cleared away all the stupid things we currently give allegiance to. That most certainly includes allegiance to money (greed).

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The Bail out

Russ Roberts talks with Reason about the Bail Out, what caused it and what may happen moving forward.

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Sounds like a good law....

But it is also law that is not necessary if there is no Federal housing assistance to increase housing demand with less qualified buyers in the first place. It's a noble idea to try and have your cake and eat it too but it leads to side effects. My wheels are spinning trying to imagine how this will be circumvented or abused in the form perverted incentives and feedback mechanisms.

Housing standards were relaxed about 10 years ago to get more people into houses because the regulatory environment of the time was not allowing these buyers to easily get into homes when times were better.

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I'm ambivalent on this

I don't mind the traditional FHA 3% downpayment loan guarantee... the program has traditionally self-funded.  It's been benign at worst, and it's a trusted brand.  It's only since they have bastardized FHA with this kind of ridiculous relaxation of standards that it's become a problem.  But yeah, these programs NEVER GO AWAY when they've outlived their need.  When FHA was created, it was needed.  When usage of FHA declined in the past decade because of competition, the reaction wasn't to let FHA go the way of the buggy whip, the reaction was "how can we grow FHA back to what it was"?

 

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I don't know about that

I think this bastardization is more due to the Republican/conservative idea that we should get private enterprise involved in government operations as much as possible.

I recently listened to "The Wrecking Crew" by Thomas Frank. It wasn't too great of a book (he's really in love with the traditional big-government bureaucratic stuff), but he made some good points. For one, government intervention in private enterprise is a Good Idea, but private enterprise intervening in government is decidedly not.

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Huh? Perposterous.

The result of government intervention in private enterprise is evident in this financial mess we are currently experiencing! Government intervened to set artificial lending practices to socially engineer home ownership in America, not a great outcome.

Now you get to pay for that Stiney.

Had government minded it's own business, and done what government is supposed to do, we wouldn't have just written a 700Billion dollar check.

I started that book, and there it sits, in case things get so bad we have a run on TP...I'm covered, he's an idiot!

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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Except that had little to nothing to do with the real problem.

The real problem was under regulated banks rolling up questionable mortgages into supposedly valuable assets and trading them around willy nilly until nobody knew what anything was worth.

In other words the CRA was just fine until idiot capitalists tried to pass them off as something they weren't. The problem, as usual, was in letting the children play unmonitored. The solution, again as usual, is to spank them for being naughty and keep a muich closer eye on them.

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+1

Just so long as people know its crap, they'll treat it like crap and won't encourage the increased house building so that they can sell of more crap.

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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Amazing the rationalzation?

That was the "real" problem, they were bad loans, the players just played by the rules, why blame them? Their jobs were to try and make money, Barney Franks job was "NOT" to make sure his boyfriend made money, it was to make sure the banking industry was sound.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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That begs the question.

Is fraud ok?

If its a legal loophole, should companies still deceive? [the free market "laws" wouldn't disallow such deception]

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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The free market did....

....until these liberals forced bankers, who prior to that had employed commonly held banking practices in esteem, to compromise the integrity of the system by lending to unqualified applicants.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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I'm referring to the people

I'm referring to the people who packaged the loans together and the people that rated investments.

If banks knew they were going to make loans that they normally don't, shouldn't more people have acted as if the banks were giving money away in larger sums and the problem would of had huge spotlights focused on it a long time ago.

Allowance for Doubtful Accounts is a method for recognizing that some Accounts Receivable items will not be collected in full

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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THEY WERE FORCED TOO!

If banks knew they were going to make loans that they normally don't,
shouldn't more people have acted as if the banks were giving money away
in larger sums and the problem would of had huge spotlights focused on
it a long time ago.

It wasn't a choice, if they didn't ACORN and other subversive elements would hold them accountable!

It was noticable a long time ago, Republicans kept bringing it up, and Democrats kept protecting it.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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WITHOUT GRAMM-BLILEY-LEACH ACT OF 1999, THEY

WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO!

(I can type in all caps too).

The Gramm-Bliley-Leach Act.... yes... THAT Phil Gramm.... removed the firewalls in the banking industry that were set up in 1933 specifically to prevent this kind of thing.

Phil Gramm (McCain's economic advisor), on behalf of his lobbyist buddies in the banking industry, decided that it would be best if a 66-year-old regulation (that incidentally, kept the S&L crisis in the late 80s from spreading through the entire banking industry) needed to be repealed.

*THAT* legislation is the biggest reason why a housing bubble bursting is able to bring down giants like Merrill Lynch, Lehman Bros, and AIG.

The vote in the Republican-controlled senate was 90-8, and Clinton signed it.

Plenty of blame for BOTH parties here.

Runaway *DEREGULATION* caused this, Red Wing

Reaganomics: R.I.P. 1981-2008

Sorry to tell you... but the "trickle down" chickens have come home to roost.

I survived the Bush Administration

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Wrong PM...

(I can type in all caps too).

Good for you?

The Gramm-Bliley-Leach Act.... yes... THAT Phil Gramm.... removed
the firewalls in the banking industry that were set up in 1933
specifically to prevent this kind of thing.

Phil Gramm (McCain's economic advisor), on behalf of his lobbyist
buddies in the banking industry, decided that it would be best if a
66-year-old regulation (that incidentally, kept the S&L crisis in
the late 80s from spreading through the entire banking industry) needed
to be repealed.

Wrong.

What does that have to do with sub prime loans geared toward unqualified borrowers? Nothing. The subsequent G-B-L transactions were solid, it was the ill advised lending practices that Democrats forced on the banking industry that is the culprit here. Had they not made lenders give those loans, the subsequent packaged loans would have been solvent as always. Mortgage backed securities are not the bad thing here...it is MBS's made up of junk loans that should have never been made.

ACORN is best known for their intimidation of financial institutions
where they force institutions to make high risk loans to their
constituents. Billions and billions of dollars have been made to these
high risk borrowers for homes and vehicles. Over the past ten years many Congessional
investigations have been attempted on how Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac
conduct their business. The investigations have always been “stone
walled,” in committee, by members of the Democratic Congress.
Especially by the Black Caucus members who always cried racism. Note how
silent these same members are now.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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So you're saying the Republicans were giving the warning by

shouting and no one investing their money headed the GOP's warnings and banks kept on going on like they weren't going to have much larger bad debt expense?

Then there's the question of why so many new houses were being built if the people buying them, weren't likely to pay for the houses. Did the Dems force house builders to keep building too?

I'll I keep hearing is, the Dems made the banks make the loans. When I keep asking why the banks and others buying the debt weren't realizing/complaining loudly, that the loans were crap.

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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Bush and McCain both warned...

...against this repeatedly. But Schumer, Frank, etc., killed it every time!

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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Fox News is stealing out of my diaries!

Jeaz I reported on this stuff like over a week before they did!  I'm not sure, but I think my diaries somehow spawned all the interest in this story, because I never heard anything about it before I diaried it ;-)  And now it's a major McCain talking point. 

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see also here, skymutt

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Barney frank really looks bad in this whole mess

He's just shilling for those yummy cash cow GSE's

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Not really what I'm talking about.

The first video barely hints at what I'm talking about, but indirectly. But does bring up than Fannie/Freddie should/could have been reduced in size to minimize any implosion of one of them.

The second video brings up the underlying issues
From about 3:00-4:00

For a few seconds at 5:25

And the frame at 7:59

Investors were aware (or should have been) that Fannie/Freddie weren't "public" companies in the eyes of the SEC and had different regulation.

People were buying up Fannie/Freddie crap and thought the government would come out with some welfare program for investors if any major loses happened, &@#$ them for driving towards a cliff.

Did the Dems force financial institutions to drive towards the cliff?

I'm reminded of a discussion I've just had on a local sports forum where someone thinks they're talking to a homer.

Some guy from my town: They ran up the score!

Me: That was kind of dumb of them scoring the last TD, taking the knee would have increased their odds of winning, albeit only slightly. They could have ended up giving the ball back or giving us a 1 in million shot of scoring 2 fast TDs.

Dude from other town [replying to me]" You're just bitter, I talked to our coach and he said "you never take a lead for granted"

Me: Apparently that coach isn't aware of Herm Edwards' days of playing in the NFL

Other dude from other town (replying to me): If you guys wanted us to not "run up the score" then you should have stopped us.

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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Um...Fannie and Freddie have always...

...been unquestionably acknowledged as GSE's.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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Here's a question

If this whole mess is exclusively the result of bad mortgages, why is $700billion possibly not enough to deal with it?

There were a million homes in foreclosure as of June. Let's be crazy and say that number doubled since then, and then assume the average price of those homes is $350,000. Both those assumptions, are I suspect, way higher than reality.

That's $350,000 x 2 million, which is $700billion. The amount of money spent on the bailout should completely eliminate the problem then, right? If not, why not? Maybe because the problem wasn't only the bad loans, but the way those loans were subsequently sold and resold, with little regard for their actual value? I don't know, but it sure seems to me that blaming it all on the bad mortgages is simplifying the problem a bit too much.

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

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No no...

It is bad mortgages + the investments in those mortgages which are now MBS's.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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That makes no sense

How can the investments in bad mortgages exceed the value of the mortgages themselves by any significant amount, unless there was some hanky panky going on in the selling of those mortgages?

We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki

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The bailout is not making Mortgages and MBS's solvent...

...it is bailing out huge corporations with huge overheads who found themselves holding all this worthless paper...

BECAUSE...Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, ACORN and the Democrats forced banks to make bad loans.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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oh please

Are you suggesting that all investment bankers are Democrats.

Surely there were macho Republicans somewhere in this line of events, working as investment bankers, that would never let wussy democrats twist their arms and force sensible conservatives to swallow bad loans without checking!

I find it impossible to believe that you are suggesting that good conservative Republicans would back down on their principles and invest bad money.

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Ah, the usual non sequitur from Miss L...

It doesn't matter one iota what party "the bankers" belonged to?

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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Neither you nor John McCain

get it.

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Have you ever noticed that...

...when it comes to what you have to say...nobody gets it?

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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Brutus

why you ask?

On one level, because the loans were not that apparently "bad" until homes values flattened.

On a deeper level, because there were government guarantees for these kinds of loans....guarantees that were becoming highly suspect...hence the calling into question of the true health of the GSE's in those hearing videos you see everywhere.

Without these GSE and guarantees, nobody would have made so many of these loans because they would not have been able to get rid of them. HENCE, why the standards were relaxed to allow for more loans to these targeted people.

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You are right...

...people, especially in CA, hence the HIGH # of such cases, thought they could simply refinance themselves into real estate nirvana, and the flattening of housing prices expedited the demise of that fantasy.

But again, it was the attempt of liberals to artificially skew the socio-economic playing field by governmental regulation forcing the homogenization of home ownership in America that was the impetus of this crisis, not the subsequent dealings with loans that would otherwise have been perfectly legitimate investments.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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John answered my question n/t

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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I'm not going that far

At the very least, some government intervention into private enterprise is good and some is bad. On the good side of the ledger, I think we can all agree that requiring places of public accommodation to do business with black people is an example of the government going good. On the bad side of the ledger are the policies that created the current mess.

However, private enterprise sticking it's nose into the government -- that is the idea of "market-based governing" doesn't work as advertised because government lacks the proper incentives and disincentives that make a market work. It's essentially another form of privatized profits and socialized losses, or my new favorite: capitalism on the way up and socialism on the way down.

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Well yes, constitutional ammendments aside though...

...government should do its constitutional duties, and leave the rest to the states, local governments and individuals.

Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman

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But mortgage insurance is already issued by the private sector

If FHA to quietly go away, leaving PMI to pick up the slack, it would not require private "intervention" in an inherently governmental role. And all insurance including PMI is regulated by the government, so it's not like government bureaucracies would be left totally out of the loop.

But like I say, I'm not calling for the FHA to be abolished.  I just want prudent, common sense standards to keep the risk of future taxpayer-bankrolled bailouts to a minimum.

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They're not parallel programs

FHA loan programs don't really serve the same market as PMI. Not everyone who qualifies for an FHA loan will get the same loan with a similar PMI. In fact, those people who don't qualify for the private loan are just about the only people who get an FHA loan -- except for hardcore statists and anti-capitalists who simply like dealing with the government rather than a private company.

I'm of the opinion that social welfare programs should be vertically integrated. By that I mean that the private sector should remain private and with very little regulation, but there ought to always be a public alternative when needed to advance a particular government objective.

You mention that PMI is already regulated so there'd still be a government presence if FHA loans were gone tomorrow. I'd rather FHA loans exist and stop the regulation of PMI rather than requiring PMI companies to insure the people that are now unserved due to the elimination of the FHA program.

To go a bit more off topic, I don't understand the idea of insuring or guaranteeing private loans. It makes much more sense to me for the government to simply be issuing the loans rather than acting as a bulwark for the private sector. When you get right down to it, government insuring a loan is nothing more than a guaranteed bailout, which in turn, is another example of privatized profits and socialized losses.

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PMI and FHA

FHA loan programs don't really serve the same market as PMI.

No?  Both products insure mortgages with less than a 20% downpayment.   There's no reason why PMI couldn't pick up the slack for FHA.  Perhaps PMI would be more reluctant to insure loans with phony downpayments, and that would be a good thing.

To go a bit more off topic, I don't understand the idea of insuring or
guaranteeing private loans. It makes much more sense to me for the
government to simply be issuing the loans [so that the public benefits from profits]

Well we already kind of do this now, through Fannie and Freddie, since the taxpayer has an equity stake in the companies at present-- we will have to see how that pans out.  At any rate this is another reason why one might consider FHA to be kind of superfluous.

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Good diary on DailyKos about the downpayment assistance bill

It shows how the National Association of Realtors, one of the largest and most powerful lobbies on the planet, buys votes for garbage legislation like this, and how spineless and corrupt politicians like Christopher Shays (R-CT) abandon principle and sell out to them.

CT-04: Pay-To-Play Shays

 

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