Zizek and What Obama Means to the World

An article that caught my attention a few months ago titled "Use Your Illusions " (yes, a cheap knock off of the G'nR album ) by Slavoj Zizek in the Nov./Dec., 2008 edition of London Review of Books interestingly shows how the international left views the political landscape in the United States. It makes even our far left look moderate by comparison.

Zizek believes the left in America blinds themselves to the reality that the liberals and conservatives are but a few degrees apart in a vast spectrum of political possibilities (think Ralph Nader on steroids). He views the actions of the U.S. through its international influence, and he does not see our tendencies or domination and influence changing under the leadership of Obama:

The real consequences of Obama’s victory: from a pragmatic perspective, it is quite possible that Obama will make only some minor improvements, turning out to be ‘Bush with a human face’. He will pursue the same basic policies in a more attractive way and thus effectively strengthen the US hegemony, damaged by the catastrophe of the Bush years.

After a few paragraphs, Zizek seems to lose his focus, shifting between the philosopher Kant, the fall of communism and the Berlin Wall, genocide in Congo, the economic crisis, and then back to Obama. Throughout what might be deemed unconnected rambling is an undercurrent of how Western powers seem to act within a narrative that suits U.S. and its interests.

The death of a Palestinian child, not to mention an Israeli or an American, is worth thousands more column inches than the death of a nameless Congolese. Why? . . . the permanent civil war and disintegration of Congo ‘has created a “win-win” situation for all belligerents. The only loser in this huge business venture is the Congolese people.’ Beneath the façade of ethnic warfare, we thus discern the contours of global capitalism.

Despite these criticisms, Zizek does see some positive in the election of Obama. He acknowledges the historical importance of electing the nation's first black president. He also says that there is a symbolic gesture inherent in Obama's victory.

Like many, I cried when Obama was elected and when he finaly gave the oath of the presidency. Although Zizek does not mire himself in the same level of pathos as many of us who did get more caught up in the historical significance of the moment, he accepts that this event does hold political and, more importantly, historical importance.

Obama’s victory is not just another shift in the eternal parliamentary struggle for a majority, with all the pragmatic calculations and manipulations that involves. It is a sign of something more. This is why an American friend of mine, a hardened leftist with no illusions, cried when the news came of Obama’s victory. Whatever our doubts, for that moment each of us was free and participating in the universal freedom of humanity.

His final remarks on the matter suggest that he understands his cynicism is a bit extensive for this moment. Perhaps these times require a person to serve as a symbol for what the world, not just the U.S., lacks right now.

No matter what happens, it will remain a sign of hope in our otherwise dark times, a sign that the last word does not belong to realistic cynics, from the left or the right.

Crossposted at Signicide

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The International Left ....!

 Wow! Who knew.

 Great to see you at the keypads, Specter.

  My biggest regret of events so far, is that since Obama was handed a steaming pile of crap known as the financial meltdown and a global economy careening towards a near depression, he will not have the energy, time or resources that he would have otherwise focused on international affairs, which was one of his own strong priorities. 

 The economic crises has the potential to become a National Security crises. 

 I see that Gordon Brown is call for a Global New Deal. (Or how to give the hard right the night sweats.)

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About your blog

I would have preferred "Spectercide-- Kill the broadleafs " ;-)

Beneath the façade of ethnic warfare, we thus discern the contours of global capitalism.

More like "beneath the facade of scholarly writing, we thus discern the contours of bull$h1t"... Man you weren't kidding when you say this guy "seems to lose focus"-- he's all over the place!  What a name-dropper!  About halfway thru, I succumbed to the sheer assault of disconnected names and events, and, instead of really reading, began scanning for "Hitler".*  And before too long, sure enough...

*I really didn't do this, but I thought it would be clever to say so after I saw a mention of Hitler late in Zizek's article.

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I guess this is where I am supposed

to make a joke regarding the name skymutt. :-)

Hmm.  I'm sorry you did not like the article, but I think you may have dismissed it a bit too quickly with a bit of ad populum oriented anti-intellectualism as your argument. 

Perhaps you misunderstood his argument, or perhaps I did not spell it out in elementary terms that some (not necessarily you, though you did stick your head out here in this regard) require to understand texts such as these.  I will do my best to help you:

While I do agree that his focus could be tighter, his rambling is actually a carefully orchestrated defense of his proclamation that Obama, who many on the right deem a blatant treasonous socialist at the least and communist at worst , is Bush in sheep's clothing.  That is a major charge to contend with.  The 'seemingly rambing part'  is actually his evidence for this assertion and not just what you reductively call 'name-dropping'.  Believe me, if Zizek was going to 'name-drop;, he could do much better than Kant and Hitler. 

 

We are all mediators, translators. - Derrida
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Perhaps it is just over my head...

But hey, if it's over your head, and you got nothin, I think the "what an egghead this guy is" argument should be allowed :-) 

Alright, since you have thrown down the gauntlet and called me out for anti-intellectuallism, and have hinted that I might not have been up to the task of following this guy's reasoning, I had to read the thing again, more carefully. 

Now I think the guy's a egghead AND a hypocrite ;-)  For instance, I like how he closes by saying that we should worry about "the obvious temptation to reinvigorate the ‘war on terror’ and US interventionism in order to keep the economy running".  Um, how is it obvious that the war on terror is good for the economy?  I would bet that most people would consider it a drag on the economy, considering that 1.) at its height, the GWOT contributed to conditions that led to high oil prices, which is not good for our economy, 2.) The GWOT has cost hundreds of billions of dollars, not just on military expenditures, but also on such things as port security which are frictional to trade and thus harm the economy, and 3.) The GWOT has damaged U.S. power and prestige in the world, which has negative economic costs in itself.

Talk about cynical... and this from the guy who popmpusly puts down all the cynics for their blind spots :-p

Then there's the whole 'nobody cares about the starving children, nobody cares about the Congo' thing...and yest it is of course insufficient and there is still great suffering, but tell me: what nation was even donating any significant amount money to impoverished war-ravaged regions of the world before the rise of America as a captialist power?  And what seems to do more to allow millions to eat better and live better than capitalism, as we have seen in China, where millions had previously starved to death under a communist system?

 

 

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You must've

had the prof. that pointed out that the intro. and the conclusion are the most imprortant and vital parts of a text since you base your entire interpretation of the essay on a relatively insignificant phrase.  I will entertain you anyway and focus on that phrase also (though I think it is very reductive to put emphasis on this one phrase).  Framed in the larger context of his argument, that phrase makes more sense.

Let me preface this by saying that I do not agree with Zizek; I just think it is interesting (as I stated above) that while the right is busy screaming "traitor commie" the international left sees him as Bush.

Ok, to the phrase that you base your interpretation on: Zizek states

The danger is thus that the predominant narrative of the meltdown won’t be the one that awakes us from a dream, but the one that will enable us to continue to dream. And it is here that we should start to worry: not only about the economic consequences of the meltdown, but about the obvious temptation to reinvigorate the ‘war on terror’ and US interventionism in order to keep the economy running.

Where do I start?  First off, he states that it is a temptation, not a policy, plan, or any other guaranteed observation.  This is an important distinction.  I think the search for a diversion to problems at home can be powerful.  I also think it can be profitable if you do not have vested interests (no-bid contracts run by the oil-oligarchy) running the show.  I think that point takes care of your number 1) and 2).

Why would he state that?  Well, one of our favorite narratives is that WII pulled us/helped pull us out of the Great Depression, so perhaps we will turn towards terrorism as this new front to drive the economy.  What better to spend money on (artificially) than military infrastructure?  With the addition of 17,000 troops to Afghanistan and the relative delay in bringing home the troops from Iraq, perhaps he is on the right track.  It is easy money. If the Western allies got behind us, it is a possibility to improve our reputation and still find this economic scapegoat.  Most of his later examples deal with that (including your Hitler example which you scoffed at a bit prematurely--yes, he is indirectly comparing Obama to Hitler).

On the other hand, I do not think he is correct.  He doesn't even think he's correct himself (here is another point you seemed to have missed).  He is calling himself the cynic.  He is not "pompously putting down all the [other] cynics for their blind spots," but himself (he is a cynic of the left which is why he mentions his friend who cries and leaves off with the last line--"No matter what happens, it will remain a sign of hope in our otherwise dark times, a sign that the last word does not belong to realistic cynics, from the left or the right").

I'm not getting into a "what is better: communism or capitalism?" debate with you.  Talk about a strawman.  :-)

(Edit): With all that said, I also think Zizek is an egghead, but at least he is interesting.  It is not the same argument you hear from th left and right here in the U.S. which is why I wrote on it.  It breaks the mold we are used to.  :-)

 

We are all mediators, translators. - Derrida
http://signicide.blogspot.com/

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Bah

You must've had the prof. that pointed out that the intro. and the conclusion are the most imprortant and vital parts of a text since you base your entire interpretation of the essay on a relatively insignificant phrase.  Framed in the larger context of his argument, that phrase makes more sense.

Of course you've based this on a sample size of 2... No, I just chose a couple of examples of stuff that struck me as rather ridiculous.  One happened to be very close to the end of the piece. 

As far as basing my "entire interpretation of the essay" on the one phrase, again this is not accurate.  I could have give many examples to support my general views about the essay, but I chose only to provide a couple, because I didn't want to go on and on.

Where do I start?  First off, he states that it is a temptation, not a policy, plan, or any other guaranteed observation.   This is an important distinction.

Well actually, he said it was an "obvious temptation", as long as we're splitting hairs here.  And that's what I was disputing: that it was even an obvious temptation to reinvigorate the GWOT because of economic considerations.

one of our favorite narratives is that WII pulled us/helped pull us out of the Great Depression, so perhaps we will turn towards terrorism as this new front to drive the economy.

Uh, that's not a favorite narrative of Democrats, that's a Republican narrative.  The Democratic narrative is that the New Deal pulled us out of the Great Depression.  Obama is a Democrat.  In no sense of the word "our" that includes Obama is that WWII narrative a "favorite".  So I see no "obvious temptation" there.

On the other hand, I do not think he is correct.  He doesn't even think he's correct himself (here is another point you seemed to have missed).  He is calling himself the cynic (he is not "pompously putting down all the [other] cynics for their blind spots," but himself (he is a cynic of the left which is why he mentions his friend who cries and leaves off with the last line--"No matter what happens, it will remain a sign of hope in our otherwise dark times, a sign that the last word does not belong to realistic cynics, from the left or the right").

Bah.  I can prove he doesn't see himself as a cynic.  He says:

What the cynics don’t see is their own naivety, the naivety of their cynical wisdom which ignores the power of illusions.

If he were placing himself amongst the cynics, how could he perceive the blind spot that he judges to be the signature of the cynics? 

 

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I don't see it that way, sylar_mark86.

 If his appointees are any indication, we'll get pretty well screwed by Obama pretty much like we've been screwed by all the other POTU'S's.

 

 

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Especially when one bears this not so little detail in mind...

...yikes!

Naturally the White House waited until Friday evening to let this news out. It is catastrophic to his agenda even though he’ll want to blame George Bush.

The Obama administration has released new deficit numbers, and they are not pretty.

The deficit for Fiscal Year 2009, which ended Sept. 30, came in at a record $1.42 trillion, more than triple the record set just last year.

In addition, future deficits are currently projected to total $9.1 trillion in the coming decade.

The Democrats’ natural reaction will be to raise taxes. But that would hurt the alleged economic recovery. In fact, the Democrats are going to need to halt their spending spree. Likewise, if the Blue Dogs are serous deficit hawks, it will mean they must vote no on health care reform.

 

H/T to RS...

Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis!

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Fear mongering on the deficit

  The deficit is not a static number. As a percentage of economic growth, the number changes.

  IF the economy grows, then a static number, such as the deficit becomes smaller.

   The key to economic growth is creating jobs. Otherwise regular folks won't spend their money, can lose their homes, just sending the economy into a further down ward spiral.

  Since you don't like unemployment or the deficits, do you have any suggestions on how to create jobs to improve the overall health of the economy.

 The legendary fantasy that tax cuts are the solution, has proved to be unfounded. Wealth and prosperity has not been trickling down, but rather trickling up and out.

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I had forgotten the absurd lengths you go to...

...to justify the craziest things...

The Feds monetary policies and the evidently not so scary to some projected 9 trillion dollar deficit will soon result in such intense inflation and economic chaos that not even you and your willingness to attempt breathing life into such things will be of any consolation.

The deficit is bad ML, very bad, and it would behoove even you being the student of popular liberal economic theory that you are to acknowledge that.

As for ways in which we could improve the economy, well, less burden on, and greater attention to small business would be a great start, but that is to simpleton a theory for, and does not speak to the precedent liberal concern of advancing a vast political agenda.

Solving the economic woes of our nation evidently comes in a distant second now days, as it is simply not compatible with the need to address their real motivations you see. So now we find ourselves spending outrageous amounts of money we don't even have in what amounts to one massive exercise in folly designed to address and advance President Obama's far left and clearly unconstitutional political agenda.

 

Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis!

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Not unconstitutional

 nor far left. As for absurd lengths thats a stretch.

  The deficit, as I mentioned is not static. It could get worse. Shrinking spending to please the far right would worsen the recession.

 I assume that you support an economic stimulus for Afghanistan and the 'war' effort with no hesitation about how much that will do to the deficit.

 If we listen to the right  the second amendment or the feds, trumps states rights, yet at the same time they claim that doctor/patients rights should be determined by the individual states. 

 There is no reason to think that providing for the general welfare doesn't trump states rights either, unless you are wacko enought to think that federal initiatives for health and welfare of the nation, things like the polio vaccine, was a liberal conspiracy to legalize murder.

 Did you think it was unconstitutional that the entire Congress, was pushed to step in to the health care debate to save the life of Terri Shiavo?

 

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Without getting into the litany of unconstitutional behavior...

...Mr. Obama advocates, consider the following as it relates to health care;

In a search of the Constitution, we find that the words "health," "medicine" or "medical" are mentioned -- drum roll please -- not even once: not within the original text, nor within 220 years of amendments. (A search of the Articles of Confederation yields similar results.)

However, neither do the Constitution nor the Declaration counsel us with direct verbiage concerning agriculture, textiles, construction and the whole raft of goods and services upon which those everyday necessities of food, clothing and shelter are stationed.

But, the Declaration does aver that all men are created equal, not of outcome but of opportunity; that they are endowed with the right to Life, not a guaranteed good life, not a guaranteed healthy life, but life with all of its miraculous potential; that they are endowed with a right to Liberty, the fusion of freedom and personal responsibility; and that they are endowed with a right to the pursuit of Happiness, the eclectic amalgamation of hopes and dreams and desires and necessities as defined by each individual -- not by faceless, nameless bureaucrats.

Furthermore, the Constitution's Preamble declares that its purpose is to establish Justice, the even-handed application of law to all citizens; to insure domestic Tranquility, the exclusion of class warfare; to promote (not provide) the general Welfare; and to secure the blessings of Liberty, there again, the fusion of freedom with personal responsibility.

....or this...

So, our founding documents do guide us to proper health care legislation: for it is that which encompasses equality and liberty for consumers and providers alike; that which promotes life above death panels; that which encourages the medical hopes and dreams as defined by each individual; that which constrains, not magnifies, class warfare; and that which secures "the blessings of Liberty, to ourselves and our Posterity."

Anything more than this is an affront to constitutional order and Rule of Law. As Thomas Jefferson so keenly observed: "Were we directed from Washington when to sow, and when to reap, we should soon want bread." And, it takes little thought, or even imagination, to extend his estimation to the current health care debate.

The bottom line is that Article 1, Section 8 of our Constitution, which addresses powers of the legislature, never endowed Congress with authority to regulate or collect taxes for banking, mortgage or automaker bailouts. Neither does it present authority for them to subsidize production or service sectors such as health care. Indeed, James Madison wrote, "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents..."

Sadly, not one Democrat bill addresses "health care" so much as it seeks omnipotent centralized government power and control, the currency of the Left. However, the proposals certainly betray the Left's condescension and contempt for Rule of Law, along with their frontal assault upon our Essential Liberty.

...or we could just continue the path the President has us on and allow the government to become ubiquitous in the lives of the American people... NOT!

 

Semper Vigilo, Fortis, Paratus et Fidelis!

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Yeah sure...

 the words, telephone, internet, and sex don't appear in the constitution either.

 Following your reasoning their is no provision to legalize the telephone, therefore the telephone is unconstitutional! Revolt now!

 

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Oh ML...

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt...

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."
-Anonymous

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Non sequitor starter

You're argument should almost solely be that health insurance and the like doesn't fall into the "promote general welfare" category. And the other issue in how far the power to regulate interstate trade.

In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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I think the post was clearly broad enough...

...and attested to its premise sufficiently in order to avoid the "non sequitur", (yes, its sequitur with a "u"), label thank you very much. ;-)

 

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It is amusing

 that in your enthusiasm to express your opinion, you have responded to a spammer.

 

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In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,

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