Drugs. Two Great Recent Videos
For a plethora of reasons, I'm generally sympathetic to and for the arguments of legalizing and/or decriminalizing drugs...especially marijuana. It's well covered territory on both sides of the argument but, in the end, the anti-legalization arguments fail to convince me that it's a better way to handle this issue. To me, it's not an issue of whether people can or will have access to these drugs because they do. So, "illegal" clearly does not mean "no access" or "diminished access" or "keeping us all drug free". Likewise, "legal" does not mean the opposite.
To me, it's a given that people will get the drugs the want and try the drugs they want whether it's illegal or not. The only choice we face is how that happens and what consequences we create along the way.
And we aren't even touching the issue of medically recommended medical marijuana. That THAT should illegal...especially at a federal level...is preposterous.
Will this ever change? I don't know. I hope that, in time, it will.
Meanwhile, here are two great videos that came out recently.
First is Ron Paul vs. Stephen Baldwin on drug legalization:
Next, from the 3-13-09 episode of 20/20, here's Stossel and Drew Carey covering medical marijuana and an unfortunate casualty of this fight: A doctor in California.
(BTW, The Liberty Papers has all six segments from that 20/20 episode available in one spot. Great viewing.
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Ron Paul vs. Stephen Baldwin
OK, this is admittedly a shallow observation, since I know neither of these guys personally, but this just seems like the intellectual equivalent of a boxing match between Muhammad Ali and Punky Brewster.
We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki
....Muhammad Ali and Punky
Or Tyson vs Carol Channing
Baldwin was full of slippery slopes arguments that made little sense. I suppose he'd argue against teaching evolution in schools, because it would lead to schools teaching kids to worship a giant H-Bomb that is in the middle of a cathedral.
In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
Faith-based, Conservative Viewpoint?
Baldwin? I could have mistaken that for a SNL parody....
hehehehe
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Drug Decriminalization in Portugal
Glenn Greenwald
has been working on a 50 page paper for the Cato Institute that he will present on April 3 at noon at Cato Institute in Washington.
Great work, Glenn. See his link for more info...
I just don't see Greenwald & the Cato in the same setting.
The Cato is way more libertarian than he is. Should be interesting.
They're collaborating
on an issue where Greenwald has a libertarian position: drug legalization...or at least decrminalization (for starters).
economist on the drug war
FYI, last week's economist has a cover story about ending the drug war(s).
http://www.economist.com/printedition/index.cfm?d=20090307
Sorry if I'm repeating an earlier comment...
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
I don't know drug addiction research, but I do know research
Baldwin's gateway drug argument is pathetic. When he makes completely unfounded assertions such as "marijuana leads to doing worse things. That's just a fact.", I can only conclude that he is a liar.
Without looking at the research on the issue, I can confidently state that he is unjustified in making strong assertions about the gateway drug hypothesis:
1) We can't do controlled experiments on human drug use. We cannot take one group of kids, give them pot, and then come back 10 years later and see if they are using harder drugs. Selection bias will seriously complicate any study examining the relationship between marijuana use and other drugs. Reserachers can try to account for this by using fancy statistics, but it is almost impossible to draw any conclusions.
2) Even if we could examine the impact of pot smoking on other drug use in America, we would still have no information about whether this relationship would hold up if marijuana were legalized while leaving the other drugs illegal.
So, Baldwin has no basis for making his claims. The fact that he followed his comment with "I don't care what anyone says" indicates that he has no empirical basis for his claim. He's just making it up.
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
Greenwald's talk of Portugal's drug decriminalized
is impressive & it's worked out really well. I didn't know.
Just imagine how much money you'd suck out of organized crime.
what does the research say about "marijuana gateway drug"
I did a PubMed
search for "marijuana gateway drug
":
Here's what I found:
There is a well established correlation between early use of alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana, and later use of other illicit drugs. Of the studies that I looked at, few actually tried to separate out causal factors of later drug use
Understanding the association between adolescent marijuana use and later serious drug use: gateway effect or developmental trajectory?
Reassessing the marijuana gateway effect
.
This later article lead to a series of comments by other researchers
, some seemed to be frantically re-emphasizing that the existence of an alternative to the gateway hypothesis does not automatically invalidate the gateway hypothesis. Others proposed ways to distinguish between the gateway hypothesis and the common-factor hypothesis. I got the impression that there really hasn't been much serious research on the gateway hypothesis.
One of these researchers (MICHAEL LYNSKEY) pointed out the following item of interest:
In the end, I guess the issue is whether you are comfortable throwing people into jail due to indirect problems that their behavior may cause, especially when the causal relationship between their current behavior and the future problems is largely speculative.
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
gateway drugs and responsibility for your actions
Some conservatives place a big emphasis on how a person is responsible for their actions, regardless of genetic or social factors that may influence their behavior.
I wonder if these people see any conflict between that opinion and the argument that the gateway drug hypothesis has any bearing on whether we should throw pot smokers in jail. If they really believe in personal responsibility, they would have to argue that a person uses heroin because that person decided to use heroin, and the people who only smoke pot are not responsible for the actions of the heroin user.
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
Gateway drugs are gateway drugs for one reason usually-
the supply of your drug of choice is interrupted and so you turn to some other drug to fill in. That isn;t an issue with decriminalized drugs in general because the supply isn't subject to the wild variations you see in illegal drugs (between drug busts, cartel rivalries, etc).
Personally I'm for decriminalization of mariuana and a bunch of the less damaging/addicting drugs. Psychodelics I think should be available with a counselor's agreement. The drugs I have trouble with legalizing are the most extremely addictive and damaging; Heroin, PCP, crack.
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Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.
addictions
Don't forget power.
If I were in charge, megalomania would be prohibited.
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
Welcome to anarchism...
nt.
I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.
"Anarchism" in big lettering...
...with "so long as it's end result supports a progressive, liberal agenda" really small just below it.
I kid. I kid.
But really I don't.
What about saturation effects?
You get so used to weed that you get bored of it and want to try something more stimulating.
I have no idea whether this can acutally happen with marijuana or any other drug. I do have some pothead ex-roommates who moved on ecstatsy/rave circuit.
Legalizing marijuana is for
Legalizing marijuana is for the best, this what I think too. You are right, there are many reasons in favor of this, I won't count them all over again. Kids need protection, instead they hide from authorities and do drugs. We have no official records and thus it's hard to help them. Ronn, drug treatment
counselor