Monday Open Thread

Violence continues in Iraq after 63 die on a bloody Sunday. (link ) Bombs kill 66 people on a train bound from India to Pakistan. (link ) IRaq War vets face numerous hurdles at the VA. (link ) A Republican former Secretary of Defense says "How many casualties should the United States accept in that effort to try to create clarity and stability in a situation that is inherently unstable?" (link ) Larry Johnson has taken the Washington Post to task for spreading lies about the Plame case. (link ) And Eric Massa writes about billions wasted and other billions unappropriated in Iraq. (link ) Meanwhile, the smears have started against Jack Murtha and his plan to place limits on President Bush. (link )

I have connections to Massa and Johnson. And BarbinMD, author of the last piece, used to be a regular here at SC. nedir

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Billions

What's a Billion? How much is it really?

A Billion Seconds ago it was 1959.

A Billion Minutes ago Jesus was alive.

IN terms of the US federal budget, a billion dollars ago was 8 hours and 20 minutes.

War Correspondents Richard Engels Predictions for Iraq

We will declare victory and leave. The "surge" is less about winning than it is about calming things down enough to allow the US the most graceful exit possible.

Al Sadr's army will go undergound, much as Hezbollah in Lebannon.

Iran will be involved in the resconstruction of Iraq, just as Hezbollah was in rebuilding Lebanon.

The US will declare victory, while remaining in Anbar Privince to fight evil al-Queda terrorists.

If the Sunni's are left disenfranchsed in the center of Iraq, this small failed stated in the center of the country will cause problems for decades to come.

....most of the senior Iraqi politicians spent time in Iran, have close relations with Iran. Look at al-Hakim, the most powerful political figure in Iraq, aside from the prime minister. He has a very close relations with Iran and wants to form a Shiite southern state that would have an economic alliance with Iran. So right now it is

We will hear lots of criticism of the press, if they dare to mention that the new "calmer" Iraq is anything less than a success.

And what did we get for our Billions in Iraq.

Well the Iraqi people are not fleeing into the newly democratic Iraq, they are fleeing away from democracy by mere millions away from this new democratic experiment.

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I am taking all my toys

and I am gonna go home.

No one wants to play anymore.

Happy Presidents Day!

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we are relaxing here

it's a vacation day here :) Happy Presidents Day!

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Yup

Speaking for myself, I'll be back in force tomorrow. Y'all aren't gonna know what hit ya =)

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Hey! Some of us

actually work in the private sector where we don't get off for make-believe holidays like President's Day and Memorial Day and Fourth of July. Hell, we're lucky to get out two days of vacation a year!

qui tacet consentire

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Where is everyone?

I just got back from class and nobody has been talking today.

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I'll be around a little later -

it's a week before winter break here, so we got dumped on with last-minute work. Give me a couple hours, and I'll be back. :D

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Busy, busy

I am behind from that conference last week, then I had family up this weekend. Tomorrow, an application for my contract renewal is due, so, needless to say, I haven't been able to take much time to comment. I am peeking in every once in a while to read.

Thanks to missliberties for picking up the slack. I'll be around more in the next few days.

We are all mediators, translators. - Derrida

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Since there's not a lot of political debate going on today,

I offer up this quote from bash.org.

Feel free to place your own nerd jokes below =)

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Is this programmer humor

because I just don't get it. What does it mean?

We are all mediators, translators. - Derrida

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Oh all right

here's a political snippet for the day. Best part:

Several advisers, friends and donors said in interviews that they had urged her to call her vote a mistake in order to appease antiwar Democrats, who play a critical role in the nominating process. Yet Mrs. Clinton herself, backed by another faction, never wanted to apologize — even if she viewed the war as a mistake — arguing that an apology would be a gimmick.

In the end, she settled on language that was similar to Senator John Kerry’s when he was the Democratic nominee in 2004: that if she had known in 2002 what she knows now about Iraqi weaponry, she would never have voted for the Senate resolution authorizing force.

John Kerry. Seems like a nice man. Not the guy I turn to when I'm looking for "quotes that work."

Heh indeeedy!

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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heh

it's kinda silly the way the far left is ganging up on Hillary. I think it will only make her more popular among regular dems.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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an orgy of anti-americanism

that should make anyone want to puke

BREAKING: CIA "torture pilots" discovered

That thread along exposes dozens of complete slimes. And a whole bunch of other morons willing to throw American citizens into foreign courts. Maybe their willingness to do away with protection of our citizens will eventually catch up to them. Idiots.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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wow

someone actually posted a photo of a CIA agent who was indicted by an Italian court. What do you think the intent and desire of that is? Recommended eh?

If there is anything treasonable - that is it.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Two Words

Valerie Plame

She worked at the JTFI (Joint Task Force on Iraq). The JTFI was trying to find evidence that would back up the White House's assertion that Iraq was a WMD danger.

Joint Task Force on Iraq--part of the Counterproliferation Division of the agency's clandestine Directorate of Operations. The JTFI's chief of operations was a career undercover officer named Valerie Wilson.

Speaking of treason.

Sounds like you are doing a full Johnson. Justifying anything conservatives do while claiming that the "other" party is anti-American.

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Get a rope!!!! (n/t)

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