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Downey said he doesn't believe white teachers deliberately see black students as troublemakers. "I suspect the process is more subtle than that," he said. "White teachers are not consciously aware of evaluation. They may be more comfortable with the behavior of white children than black children."

Well if the behavior of white children is less disruptive then sure they might be more comfortable with it...

I don't know what's going on but in general the idea that the black community needs "leaders" and that lack of good leaders is lamentable is a bit strange.

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Research suggests

that students who are objectively similarly distruptive but of different race might have their behavior interpreted differently by their teacher.

Why is it strange to suggest the black community needs more strong/good leaders? Aren't conservatives often critical of Sharpton, Jackson, et al? I know that on a local level there are many outstanding black leaders but I see plenty of room for improvement on a national level.

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no, my question was

why do they need "leaders" at all??? What is that? Do whites as a community have "leaders"? Latinos? I don't get this idea that an ethnic group of people needs their own ethnic leaders. That's nonsense.

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I've bounced this idea around myself..

I've brought this up among friends of mine. When the subject of black leaders comes up, I ask why we need a national go-to guy to lead us to the Promised Land in America. I doubt we really need a national leader anymore. Local-level leaders provide a much better example of role models for any ethnic community in my opinion, for several reasons:

- They are closer to those who seek the leadership. Plus you have a much higher chance of actually talking with them.

- They are more realistic and not Larger-Than-Life types who impose near-impossible-to-follow characteristics (example: If Oprah Winfrey can become a billionaire by starting a media company, so can you!)

- They are probably imperfect, which shows that despite race, we all make mistakes and can be humbled in some areas.

-There are many more of them--providing a diverse array of viable paths to success in America.

I always mention that the Revolution will not be Televised because it's already going on around them (in most cases). Many are waiting for the next MLK or Malcolm X personality to lead the people, but they cannot wait--problems central to the black community need solving now and not when the Leader gets here. (And yes, I am aware that the concerns of the black community are often shared in other communities as well).

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role models are good

and they can be of any race, but even if you look for an ethnic role model - that is fine as well. But they are not leaders. So Oprah is a good role model hands down, but she does not fit the whole Jesse Jackson mold. And I don't see a big deal if she is larger-than-life because she is still inspirational. I do agree about the local-level leaders.

The problem with "leaders" as discussed is that they are the MLK or Malcolm X types (even if the current batch doesn't measure up in any sense - they are the politicos and supposed speakers for the community), but I do not think the black community or any other community needs to have such "representatives" at this point in time. During MLK's time, yes, due to institutional racism and discrimination. But does the black community need a messiah now?

For example Obama would not be a black community leader, because he clearly transcends that and would be the president for all people, thus he does not qualify. Capable men and women can organize and deal with problems in the black community without self-promoting twerps like Sharpton. Ethnic leaders should be a thing of the past in today's society, without implying that we solved race/ethnic related problems, because having racial representatives should be an insult to free thinkers of all ethnic groups in the 21st century America.

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We Certainly Can

We can have leaders in the community who deeply care and are involved in said community and they be of a different race, no doubt. However, like it or not, race still matters in America. Black people are often portrayed as monoliths in the largest portions of the media. And we know how powerful the media is in our society today.

I would agree the Obama can be viewed as a community leader who is black, and not necessarily the other way around. However, the underlying condescension is still present--I've grown tired of the He's very articulate "compliment" people give him, as if they are surprised that the guy can conjugate a sentence. I've rarely heard anyone refer to Edwards or Romney as "articulate." They said the same thing about Colin Powell back in the 90s.

I could care less about Al Sharpton and his conch hairdo or Jesse Jackson. They're leftovers from Black Leaders 1.0 (yeah, I'm a geek). Black Leaders 2.0 would encompass leaders who don't limit themselves to their racial issues (meaning that just because they're black, they don't have the barrier that they can only handle "black" issues effectively).

However, sometimes the racial element is necessary because some kids (and even adults) to this day still believe that you cannot help with problems plaguing the black community unless you're black (which of course, is untrue, but the perception still remains).

As for the article above, I've seen most of them before, and it's unfortunate..but what can you do? People will still put perceptions on black youth based on what they see on TV. (i.e., if a black kid has braided hair, or dresses in a certain way, he is in a gang or will commit some crime eventually)

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Sadly wow!

I wonder if the bias of the authoritarian figures is towards the black parents of these children, as in what horrible parents black people are. There has been a subtle assault on parents as the cause of school children's problems, blaming them for the failure of public schools. I think that blame should rest more on economic factors, two parents working and the ensueing guilt.

I would argue that we need better role models in both the black and the white communities.

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Good point

Certainly economic factors can impact families, and certainly some parents do a lousy job preparing their children to thrive in school or society. I just want the authority figures to take responsibility for what is under their control, namely how they treat each individual child.

I'd also be interested in views of black parents, now that you bring it up, and how accurate the perceptions of authority figures are.

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By far

one of the best diaries I've seen on this site. Very impressive.

This story has a shock factor, but it also has a great ethical appeal to a broader problem. If we truly value justice and a meritocracy in the United States, we should not be treating kids as criminals, and our society should not be setting kids up to view themselves as criminals in a self-fulfilling prophecy, as you stated.

While the black community does need strong leaders and role-models, authority powers (with blatant racist patterns as your evidence shows) stifle much of the progress at very early stages. I am a firm believer in, if not outright determinism, at least the strong pull of social construction. If the power structures are perpetually already against blacks and look for these behaviors first, punish them harder, and punish them earlier, we are creating a race of criminals. Personal responsibility can only go so far when black 4 and 5 year-olds are sought out as the lower dregs of society (and humanity).

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Thanks

I really appreciate that.

If the power structures are perpetually already against blacks and look for these behaviors first, punish them harder, and punish them earlier, we are creating a race of criminals. Personal responsibility can only go so far when black 4 and 5 year-olds are sought out as the lower dregs of society (and humanity).

Exactly. This is not to say that the bias is so overt as to necessarily damage the lives of black youth, of course -- we really have made a lot of progress in the last hundred years, and children are very resilient regardless. But there are still fundamental injustices in the system that should be corrected to the extent possible.

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Handcuffing young children?!?

First of all, it's clear that it's disproportionately done to young black children.

Secondly, regardless of anybody's ethnic group or color, I can understand and see handcuffing adolescents, whoever they may be, when they act out in a superdisruptive manner, but handcuffing young children,regardless of their ethnic group or color, especially for petty behaviours as the ones mentioned above , is way, way over the top, imo, and a total disgrace. A new low has been reached here, folks.

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Outstanding work, Brendan -

I'd read before about the crack/cocaine incarceration rates (are you familiar with William Wimsatt? He did a collection of essays called No More Prisons that tackled this topic, among others), but that it never manages to find a good foothold in the national dialogue is another notch in that disgrace we call a penal system. I admit that I'm more conservative than some liberals on issues surrounding the drug war (and I bristle whenever I hear the words "decriminalize" applied to anything harder than marijuana), but given the gross and obvious disparity on this issue, it's hard to believe that it can't get more traction.

Well, maybe not too hard. What's the alternative? We make penalties lighter for crack offenses? Who's going to risk that kind of political suicide? We make penalties harder for cocaine offenses? Well, the campaign donors won't be happy once it's their sons and daughters tossed in the slammer. Blech. Heck, even bringing up drugs outside of a few memorized platitudes (Crack is Whack, yo) is terra incognita for a serious political candidate.

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Thanks

I'll check Wimsatt out. I'm also not in favor of decriminalizing hard drugs, although I think the war on pot is destructive rather than helpful.

In the linked piece from Juan Williams, he agrees with you that lighter penalties for crack offenses aren't the real solution:

When he reflected on today's black civil rights leaders, Cosby essentially asked, Why are black leaders making the case for black crack addicts to get softer sentences? Why are black leaders so concerned that cocaine users get shorter sentences than crack smokers? Let's look at the logic. It is true that the people snorting cocaine are more often white and middle-class, and crack addicts are disproportionately black and lower-class. You can make the case for a racial disparity in sentencing. But what if all this effort from black leaders was successful and crack addicts got lower sentences?

"Hooray," Cosby said, spitting it out bitterly. "Anybody see any sense in this? Systemic racism, they [black leaders] call it." Then Cosby pointed out the obvious issue--but one that the black civil rights leadership somehow missed or for some reason underplayed. Black leaders, he declared, should tell poor black people to stop smoking crack. They ought to demonize anybody who does it. They should say it is a betrayal of all the black people who fought to be free, independent, and in control of their own lives since the day the first slave ship landed. They should identify the crack trade as one of the primary reasons why so many young black people are ending up in jail.

I don't entirely agree with this, since it seems likely that it's not a coincidence that the penalties are harsher for a crime primarily associated with African-Americans -- stamp out crack, and something else will become enforced in a biased manner. It also seems a bit paternalistic to suggest that the problem was just that black leaders weren't explaining crack was bad (along the lines of Ender and Charles' discussion above). But yeah, given the destructive nature of crack, the first priority should be to minimize its distribution and abuse. Fortunately, crack use appears to be declining favicon. So that's part of the puzzle.

The other part is addressing the bias that is still pervasive in our society. I think it's the little things that add up to a big problem -- in between the racists and the professional victims, the silent majority seems to be trying to treat everyone equally and not quite managing. It's not about trying to make people feel guilty, just pointing out the facts so people are more informed and can better judge their own actions. Of course, there still are blatant examples of misconduct that need to be dealt with, but mostly this seems to be an issue that will require a shift in underlying attitudes and an abandonment of unconscious stereotypes. Slow work.

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Meth is the new 'crack'

It will be interesting to see how America deals with this problem since it affects lower and middle white rural America the most. We may be able to draw closer parallels between the treatment of the crack epidemic and the meth problem after more data comes in to see if it is a classist issue or a racial issue. I have not heard many updates on this epidemic, but I suppose it is still fairly prevalent at the moment.

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Oddly enough, the Patriot Act

had some provisions aimed at reducing meth manufacture. The libertarians weren't happy favicon about that.

I expect class matters too. AFAIK the penalties for meth are pretty harsh. Penalties for abusing prescription drugs (a rapidly growing problem), not so much.

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