Weekend Open Thread (with bonus Overton window redux)

A few items of potential interest:

  • Geoengineering makes a comeback (ht dKos) as interest in technology-driven solutions to global warming grows.
  • 18 killed in Pakistan in spreading violence triggered by Musharraf suspending a judge.
  • US health care system provides faster access to new cancer drugs than in Europe.
  • Yankees decision to sign Clemens for approximately $1 million per game makes economic sense .
  • Schwarzenegger will appear in upcoming Terminator movies after all -- sort of.

What's happening?

Edit: I'd like to compile a "top ten" for SC posts. The list would include, for example, Trevino's influential Overton window piece (which the online left was quick to appreciate ). Also something from Armando. What else? I'm not familiar with the earliest content -- anyone have favorites? What about more recent stuff, anything you'd put on the list? Thanks!

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Why?

IN a reaction to the carnage of war, Julia Ward Howe wrote in 1870:

The Mother's Day Proclamation

Arise, then, women of this day!
Arise, all women who have hearts,
Whether our baptism be of water or of tears!
Say firmly:
"We will not have great questions decided by irrelevant agencies,
Our husbands will not come to us, reeking with carnage, for caresses and applause.
Our sons shall not be taken from us to unlearn
All that we have been able to teach them of charity, mercy and patience.
We, the women of one country, will be too tender of those of another country
To allow our sons to be trained to injure theirs."

Julia Ward Howe held strong beliefs and was considered a "feminist" in the sense that women bore a responsibility to help shape society with political participation.

It is the economy, stupid.

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It is a happy hope

Maybe someday.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Honor the Mothers

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For Their Sacrifice and Their Tears

It is the economy, stupid.

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And for raising

men (and women) who are willing to risk life and limb to protect what they believe in, so long as evil exists in the world.

If they did not, then every mother's child would be at risk, many against their will, as in Vietnam.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Have a Laugh

and a good day.

Who has the power to leave Stephen Colbert speechless.

Guess Who

It is the economy, stupid.

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That is laugh out loud funny (nt)

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Pro-choice in a pro-life party

Giuliani called abortion "morally wrong" but said he nonetheless favors a woman's right to choose. "I am open to seeking ways of limiting abortions and I am open to decreasing abortions," he told an audience at Houston Baptist University. "But I believe you have to respect their (women's) viewpoint and give them a level of choice. I would grant women the right to make that choice."[emphasis added]

Doesn't Rudy understand that this, in essense, is the entire pro-choice argument and not some "pro-life lite" version?

http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Giuliani+tries+to+clari...

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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The base apparently understands it fine

Judging from what I've been reading on RS recently.

I think the pro-choice side needs to be more clear that "personally against abortion" or "in favor with restrictions" are exactly what pro-choice means. The pro-life side has had some success with the "pro-abortion" label, which I find frustrating.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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I am at

my girlfriend's which is why I am not posting much. Back tomorrow evening.

BTW, I am starting to work on SC2 - which will utilize the same, but updated software (which will mean no downtime and no data loss on an upgrade). I'll let everyone know when I get to a meaningful stage where your suggestions would be welcome... like on all the stuff I didn't/couldn't implement in this version.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Well, gosh

She'll just have to share you. . . does she know about all these other people in your life? hehehe

BTW, did we miss a subtle announcement or something? I thought maybe you might have said something in a prior comment, but I could have misinterpreted it.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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hehe

She is aware but barely and since she has no interest in politics it is tough to get her enthused when we spend time together. Perhaps I'll change that later :)

As for updating SC software, no, I did not announce it aside from sending an email to FPers. It's going to take a few weeks of playing around to get it to testing mode anyways, which is why nothing formal is needed for now. I have a test site on which I'll set it up.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Some diaries I've liked

in no particular order:

- This one needs no introduction.

- America Needs Political Correctness , by Specter

- Dancin' With the Devil , by haystack, even though I disagree immensely with it.

- A Progressive's Art of War , by Tlaloc

- Life on the Other Side , by Ender

- Lessons for our time , by Brendan (of course I'd have a soft spot for something like this.

This was an interesting exercise, by the way, wading through old diaries to see how much this community has changed over the past year or so. I didn't read more than a third of what's there (so if think you wrote a really excellent diary and I left it off the list, I promise I just didn't read them all!) One thing I noticed, if this wasn't already painfully obvious, is that we're actually much less diary writers than comment writers, and what we seem to do best with are short diaries that lay out one or two controversial points that then lead to long threads hashing them out more fully. I like that dynamic, but it also means that some of the "best" (most productive and - for us - important) diaries on here haven't been the best diaries in terms of depth, length, thoroughness, etc. That's not a bad thing - just made this an even more interesting walk through old stomping grounds.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Thanks pico, very helpful

I also liked Leon's piece on Iraq -- not sure if we want to include cross-posted work?

What about your stuff? It's always interesting to see what people like best about what they themselves wrote. I really enjoyed your tribute to Vonnegut , but that sticks in my mind because it was recent.

Yeah, it's comment-driven around here, nothing wrong with that, but there's still quite a few good diaries to choose from. Maybe the thing to do would be to pick the top few in a set of categories (foreign policy, economics, social issues, politics) -- that way the list could be a little longer but still easier to access.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Much appreciated -

of my own stuff, I'm not sure what I've liked best, although I do think that most of my work has been - to put it politely - mediocre. There was that one piece that was picked up by another blog (if you remember), but I certainly don't think it was one of my best.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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A recommendation

I'd recommend Quaoar's We Can Win in Iraq diary. He lays out in detail what a war really is and what winning a war really means.

The "nice war" ideology of the Bush Administration is a philosophical fantasy, as is the related idea that we can bomb the people of Iran and expect a beneficial outcome. War means killing innocent people and taking absolute control afterwards. If we are not prepared to do what needs to be done "to win", then we should not start.

http://www.swordscrossed.org/node/1163

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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I was reading clammyc's Redstate post

and came across this comment , indicative of the "we need to be more ruthless" argument from the right (although advocating killing al Sadr instead of incorporating his militias).

I liked quaoar's post too, I think it's a fair point to make. I still think that hearts-and-minds stuff can slowly work *if* there is stability, which requires security (=US troops, at this point) and infrastructure.

But anyway, thanks for the tip -- I'm slowly pulling together a list =)

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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P.S.

By the way, I quite liked your global climate change diary too -- a fresh perspective on a much-discussed topic.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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It generated a lot of discussion

and I tend to agree with Pico on this -- sometimes it is the commentary that makes the diary.

I was trying to find some with good examples of effective partisan bickering but it's slow going through the old diaries. The number of comments is set to zero on the older ones and you have to open each of them to see how big the discussions got.

"Perplexity is the beginning of knowledge" -- Kahlil Gibran

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Ah, I skimmed pico's point too quickly

Yeah, there many some cases in which the comments add significantly to the value of the original post.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Updated the blogroll with recent posts

Lots of good stuff; my top three are the interview from My Left Wing with one of the fired attorneys, the analysis of a recent case involving child custody for a lesbian parent from the Volokh Conspiracy, and Michael Totten's discussion of the Israel/Lebanon conflict.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Senior Taliban commander killed

This guy was a bad dude. Congratulations to our forces for taking him out.

The killing of the top Taliban commander Mullah Dadullah, a one-legged fighter who orchestrated suicide attacks, beheadings and an ethnic massacre, marks a major victory for the U.S. campaign at a time of flagging Afghan support over civilian killings.

As victims of Dadullah's brutality celebrated his death Sunday, analysts called the killing the most significant Taliban loss since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion. But even NATO acknowledged that Dadullah, who directed some of the Taliban's most notorious violence, would soon be replaced.

Dadullah, a top lieutenant of Taliban leader Mullah Omar, was killed in the southern province of Helmand during a U.S.-led operation that also involved NATO and Afghan troops, NATO's International Security Assistance Force said.

Kandahar Gov. Asadullah Khalid, who called Dadullah a "brutal and cruel commander" showed the body to reporters in Kandahar who saw a one-legged corpse with bullet wounds to the head, chest and stomach.

Link

qui tacet consentire

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B ... bu ... but ...

<snark>

We aren't even IN Afghanistan. We sent everyone to Iraq so that we wouldn't never ever catch Osama. I know this because the liberals tell me this like every other day ... and they wouldn't never ever lie about something like that, right?

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Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

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This would be funnier

1. if the Afghani government weren't trying to get rid of us , 2. if this weren't the sum total of our years spent there, and 3. if we were actually hunting bin Laden.

Unfortunately, what you intend as snark is close to the truth.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Thanks.

Right on cue.

Republican Maverick at Large
-4:Strongly Disagree; 0:Meh; +4:Strongly Agree

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Spectacular

Huge success.

Well... Not as great a success as securing Afghanistan's number 1 in the world opium producer status - but still a great success.

Sic semper tyrannis

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A Writer on Iraq

Borzou Daragahi

A charming and straight forward Iranian born journalist working for the LA Times, spent four and a half years covering Iraq. He steeped himself in the culture was well as the battle.

Citing with ironic amusement that Iraq is the only place where the good guys wear ski masks, the Iraqi and American security forces both cover their faces so as to remain unrecognized.

Here is a snippet describing his last flight out of Baghdad.

I still daydream about my last helicopter ride to go north of Baghdad. I stuffed in earplugs and strapped on a flak jacket.

I thrilled as the Black Hawk lifted up, swinging over the Green Zone across the homes of the brawny, good-humored British, South African and American security contractors. We skirted past the mosque of the wily Shiite cleric who venomously ripped into his enemies during Friday prayers, but politely offered visitors tea and sweets.

We passed over a marketplace, where teens in plastic slippers pushed around wooden gurneys while shopkeepers worked their prayer beads. Young women stood in the courtyard of a school, perhaps recounting the woes that befell loved ones. Farmers outside the city limits worked ancient fields of barley and wheat. Boys and girls dressed in colorful robes of pink and purple walking on a dirt road waved up to us.

I imagined reaching my hand out and grasping them, drawing them all into my heart.

All of them.

He will be writing a book not so much about the war, but about the cool, weird cultural aspects of life in Iraq these days, the human side of things, like beauty shops and satellite TV's.

He is being reassigned to Beirut.

It is the economy, stupid.

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Excellent read -

thanks for the link!

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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People like this man

give me hope.

Like you mentioned in your Vonnegut post....... he tells the human side of the story.

I think things would improve if we can remember that those this land is far away there is a human element that connects us all.

He was there right after "mission accomplished" and mentioned the flood of artisans and artists long surpressed that were thrilled to finally be out in the open and were flourishing. Then everything changed. People don't even attend school there any more. It is just too dangerous.......!

The US has not produced in Iraq. It is am embarassment for the US and the Iraqi people and their historic culture are deeply humiliated and lost their pride. It is very sad.

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Stupidest Headline Ever

Clinton, Giuliani lead in Florida

But especially among Republicans -- and with months to go -- other leaders could emerge.

From the St. Petersburg Times
http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/13/State/Clinton__Giuliani_lea.shtml

It is the economy, stupid.

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