Conservatives Have No Clothes: An Interview With Greg Anrig

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The topic below was originally posted in my blog, the Intrepid Liberal Journal as well as the Independent Bloggers Alliance , The Peace Tree , Wild Wild Left and Worldwide Sawdust .

To paraphrase former President Ronald Reagan, conservatism is not the solution to the problem; conservatism is the problem. In the recently published book, The Conservatives Have No Clothes: Why Right-Wing Ideas Keep Failing (Wiley & Sons ), policy expert and journalist Greg Anrig indicts right-wing ideology and examines their legacy of insipid governance.

It's a familiar tale of woe for liberals at this point. The conservative method over simplifies problems such as terrorism with misguided fear mongering about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Domestically conservatives will distort the root causes of why inner city schools fail by demonizing the entire public school system or make false claims that Social Security is poised for imminent collapse. In terms of obtaining and holding onto power the conservative method of marketing distortion has been highly effective in most national elections since 1968.

The consequences for the country have been disastrous. Even when Democrats have prevailed, the radical trend of privatization was only slowed temporarily to the detriment of workers and consumers alike. From healthcare, to the gutting of FEMA and the misguided pursuit of empire have left Americans economically insecure and isolated in a dangerous world.

In a sober analysis, Anrig, the Vice President of Programs at the Century Foundation , a progressive think tank and regular contributor to the liberal blog tpmcafe.com , critiques the conservative record. Specifically, Anrig evaluates the degree that policies championed by conservatives have delivered on their promise to make America stronger and safer and our government smaller and more efficient.

E. J. Dionne , syndicated columnist for the Washington Post praised Anrig's book and noted:

"Ending the conservative era requires organizing, yes, but also hard thinking and shrewd analysis. When progressives of the future look back at how they triumphed, one of the people they'll thank is Greg Anrig. Drawing inspiration from the work of the early neoconservatives who demolished public support for liberal programs, Anrig casts a sharp eye on conservative ideas and nostrums and shows that many of them simply don't work because they are rooted more in ideological dreams than in reality. Facts are stubborn things, Ronald Reagan once said, and Anrig makes good use of them in this important and engaging book."

Anrig agreed to a podcast interview with me over the telephone about his book and issues such as education, Social Security, national security and the Democrats ineffectiveness at challenging the conservative paradigm. Please refer to the media player below. Our conversation is approximately forty minutes.

This interview can also be accessed at no cost via the Itunes Store by searching for the "Intrepid Liberal Journal."

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Nice interview

A few quick thoughts:

First, while I very much like the idea that the left wing does research (in part via blogs) while the right wing does marketing (via think tanks) I'm not positive I buy it... maybe we're striving for more research and less marketing, anyway.

The spineless Dems came up a few times, including on Iraq, where it sounded like you were suggesting a variation of the argument also made here that Dems are playing politics to win next year. Seems pretty gutless if that's what they're up to.

His idea of limited choice within public school systems is good, I think. Economic class could still be legally used by the districts as a tiebreaker to get reasonably diverse schools. Definitely agree that charter schools work better with more oversight, but to be fair the concept of charters isn't just about raising test scores, they are also niche schools that cater to specific preferences among students (e.g., emphasis on arts).

I'm annoyed that Obama is getting hammered on social security just because part of what he said overlaps with what Republicans say. Seems to me Obama is more right here than is Clinton, particularly given the gap between collection and disbursement of SS money to a given individual. Just my opinion, I know many disagree.

I hadn't heard the phrase "ideologically conservative, operationally liberal" before, I like it.

Anyway, thanks for the post.

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Thanks For Taking ...

the time to listen and comment. I'll send him an email so he see reads it.

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Sure

Just to be clear, I mostly wrote on points of (minor) disagreement and didn't comment on the parts where I think he's dead-on accurate. Like you and he both said in the interview, liberals don't need to be convinced that conservatism doesn't work =)

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Understood ...

his book actually references conservative criticism of liberalism that he believes to be valid. But he still contends that while liberal governance made mistakes it did accomplish things as well - so we learn from mistakes and move forward. Conservatives pale in comparison when it comes to governing is his overall contention and don't appear to have learned from their errors.

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