Wednesday Open Thread
So my predictions were pretty wrong. With a masterful political stroke Hillary pushed her way back into this race and the lead. I think the best thing out of it is reading all the crying on the liberal sites. I can't wait until the day when the Left has to unite behind Clinton again :)
Have a great Wednesday!
Submitted by Ender on Wed, 2008-01-09 09:59
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A sustainable carbon footprint
With all the talk of the value of a sustainable carbon footprint, how our energy usage compares to Europe, and our desires to "do something" to stop global warming, we never seem to get to the point where we truly visualize what something like that might really mean to you and me.
I found this article's photos to be a very interesting representation of what your future home might look like under truly sustainable scenarios.
Personally, I like 'em.
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --R. Heinlein
Very cool
I like them ok too, although perhaps living in one for a few years would change my mind. Or perhaps it would become totally natural.
The Rotor House didn't look as sexy as some but seemed very practical to me.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
They don't have to be small per se
The biggest components to carbon foot print are generally car usage and electricity usage. My wife just checked ours on an online test (yeah I know, but this one wasn't completely half assed) and our rating was about an order of magnitude lower than those of the people on a forum she visits regularly.
Take a look at earthships, they look damn cool but they are very energy efficient (not to mention water as well) so they can be reasonably sized and still very environmentally friendly.
A big part of our problem is that we have tried used essentially one type of house for every possible climate. Earthships were specifically designed for the Southeast desert climates. I'd love to see a similar philosophy used to design houses for differing climates throughout the US and world. Not only would it be vastly preferrable as far as use of resources but it would actually give the various areas unique architectural identities. I think that'd be great as opposed to the depressingly homogenized cities and towns we have now.
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Oh yes
I've always dreamed of living on top of a concrete pole.
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Candor
is very refreshing.
Let's be real about this. How many of us do? or would?
I would, but y'all already know I'm weird . I've already looked into Earthships even ;} And I'd build an underground home if I could find a builder. But that's not, um, normal.
Our oil addiction will never voluntarily be minimized to an extent that will have much of an impact on global warming. We love our stuff and our way of life too much.
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --R. Heinlein
when I save up some money
I'd like to explore building a self-sustaining compound/bunker somewhere out in the middle of nowhere for the chance that sh*t will hit the fan later on. :) That is for safety.
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
You mean in case Hillary wins?
Gotta get your militia set up to defend against the Black Hawk helicopters and the One World Government!
more like in case of something happening a few decades
away... :) Not with Hillary.
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Want to start a business building underground dwellings?
I'd join that venture.
We could make low cost subterranian apartment buildings for urban settings. Bunker style complexes for the Ender crowd. Houses made to go beneath fields for efficient use of farm lands.
Personally I know my wife would love to be able to have a large garden. If that garden occupied the same xy space as the house that's be fantastic.
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Absolutely!
There is money to be made in that field. But I'd have to have a partner or two or three. Got my hands full already with the business I'm running here.
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --R. Heinlein
I'll be your first.
I bet between here and SL you could find another few partners for the venture.
Problem is getting the money.
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Wouldn't be difficult
To build one spec house at a time. You'd just need to raise enough for one house.
I've built about 20 Habitat houses but I always wanted to do a rammed earth house. An earthship with exterior walls made out of old tires would also be great.
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I wish I could do that
but I utterly suck at hands on craftsy things.
@set me=envious
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I think
the main problem lies in the fact that people don't build their own houses but instead relay on what the developer builds for them having as big profit margin as possible as his main concern. It's actually possible to build a house that's not only more energy efficient and better built that the typical cookie cutter box sold by the developers, but also cheaper. And less expensive to maintain, cool or heat on top of that.
Australian government has a great website that I used extensively when building a sensible house in the tropics:
Your Home Technical Manual
Sic semper tyrannis
not a problem Ender
not a problem Ender, we will line up behind the nominee, it could still be Obama , its not over till its over .
Still it was good to see Chris Matthew's face looking all confused and crestfallen ., and almost speechless for once. The media have been beating up on Hillary for months , counting her out , I'm just glad to see them proved wrong for once..
Oh and all that tripe about the Republicans being eager to " run against Hillary " , its tripe , Ari Fleischer on Fox news this am had what I can only describe as a nauseous look on his face .
sligowoman
GOP and "running against Hillary"
sligowoman, it's not tripe.
I have several conservative relatives who are completely uninspired by any of their current batch of candidates who keep telling me things like "even if it is McCain, who I can't stand, I'll vote against Hillary." I am one of the few liberals in my family, and I have to listen to all the wing-nut crap all the time. The ONLY thing that will unite these people around any of their candidates is that he would be the last hope to stop Hillary.
My dad, who gives money to GOP candidates every cycle, has not sent one dime to any of them this time around yet. He is waiting to see who wins the nomination, and then he is sending money in order to defeat Hillary.
These aren't people who are on TV... these are regular conservatives on the street.
I realize this is anecdotal, but go up to ANY Republican friends or acquaintences that you know... ask them if they are more likely to vote for the GOP candidate if the Dem candidate is Hillary or if it is someone else.
Then go ask any independents that you know. You, as a Hillary supporter, won't like the answers.
These aren't people worried about spin.
It's a simple fact. Hillary has a national "ceiling" around 51%. She would have ZERO margin of error in a general election. Her negatives are EXTREMELY high, and the GOP would have record turnouts who's sole purpose in voting would be to stop her.
If the Dems end up nominating Hillary, we almost guarantee 4 more years of GOP rule.
I understand the need/desire to have a viable female candidate..... but this particular female candidate will not win in November. The only way the Dems can screw up their national momentum is to nominate Hillary.
Not only would she lose... she would have negative coattails, and maybe cost us congress.
It's not tripe..... I've never voted for anyone other than a Democrat for President in my life... and if Hillary is the nominee, I can see myself sitting at home. I certainly won't be writing any checks to the campaign.
And if the Dems lose a guy like me... who absolutely despises everything about the right-wing in this country.... they are in big trouble.
I survived the Bush Administration
But PM
those people are seeing Hillary almost entirely through the conservative prism. As the presidential election rises in importance these people will more often see the reeal hillary, and you know what? Because the right has worked so hard to demonize her when people see the actual person they are pleasantly surprised.
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Hillary is not an unknown commodity...
...believe me, their prism doesn't change.
They will get ALL of their election coverage from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox News, etc...
She was the first lady for 8 years for chrissakes.... it's not like she lacked for "exposure" for these people to see the "real Hillary".
She may be one of the 10 best known people in this country right now....
Believe me, everyone's opinions of Hillary... especially those on the right... are hardened. And they will only see Hillary through the Fox News lens.... trust me.
If she were an unknown entity, you'd have a point. She's not. EVERYONE has an opinion of her, and 8 months on the campaign trail is not going to wipe out 14 years of impressions.
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Yes, Prime
I know many folks who feel that way.
Okay now she is the new and improved Hillary. Wow how great is that. She is now shiny and fantastic......! It is just ever so fabulous that she is using surrogates to attack a black man as a muslim, and extra groovy that she says that only she and( apparently a Republican can keep us safe) on 9/11 cause the terrorists are watching.
Sorry I have had enough of that crap, and I don't appreciate someone suddenly adopting all the new voters brought in by other candidtaes, suddenly adopting that candidates mantra as their own. Meanwhile using the same old dirty tricks. Let's remember she was just a President's wife, who decided without the permission of the voters to give herself executive powers she was not entitled to.
And in reverse I have seen posters on the right say they would rather vote for Obama than McCain, Rudy or Huckabee. He has cross generational appeal and cross party appeal at a time when the nation could use it.
Imagine the difference in reaction between Hillary's Presidential acceptance address and Obama's. Just imagine!
I'm only half stupid
SC Meeting in SL Tonight
Swords Crossed will meet tonight in SL at 5:30pm.
I attended the post-primary discussion at the Republican HQ last night. Some interesting conversation. I only got called a Ronulan once ;}
Political discussion events seem to be proliferating in SL. Now's a good time to get that free account set up! I'll even fund your avatar makeover.
The live music is great too. This is an original piece.
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --R. Heinlein
Thanks Ender for Not Gloating
The Queen and King did not get overthrown and the Empire still stands.
How uninspiring.
Two steps forward, three steps back.
I'm only half stupid
you know me :) I never gloat
I just don't like the whole "empty platitude speaking unknown" winning for no particular great reason. Give us a reason to vote for you aside from words of "hope and change".
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
A random guy off the street is better
At this point "empty platitude speaking unknown" is the best they've got. Edwards is getting no traction and up against Hillary, I'd vote for a ham sandwich.
I never broke the law; I am the law! --
George W. BushJudge DreddI'm listening to...
What is the initial impression of Bill Kristol writing for the
New York Times?
This Media Matters post by Eric Boehlert is right on target.
Kristol is an abomination and joining him in god awful journalism is Maureen Dowd. Eric says more useful observations than I could without getting ill from thinking about the Times & the stature they used to have, but have no longer. Could the Times have been even dumber? Sure, they could have hired both Kristol & Ann Coulter for Op-Ed duties.
Yet another measure
suggesting that france has the best healthcare in the industrialized world, and we have, well guess...
The UK only dies a little better than us, which is no surprise. Remember when the opponents of universal healthcare rail against the UK system that nobody in their right mind is suggesting we copy the UK system.
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Who would have guessed?
Apparently ratcheting down tensions with Iran has helped the moderates there. Weird. I get this strange sense of Deja Vu, as if thousands of progressives had made that exact same point time and again and been ignored.
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Imperial hubris in the Holy City
Maybe Bush can have some slave girls peel his grapes too:
But wait, there's more. The emperor must recline in splendor:
Link
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Only $2600/night?
Loser
!
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Objectively ranking health care in the industrialized
world. That's what Kevin Drum links to today
. The study by a pair of UK PhD's says:
"A pair of researchers has just published an update that compares various countries on their rates of "amenable mortality," defined as deaths that are "potentially preventable with timely and effective health care." In 1997, the United States ranked 15th out of 19 industrialized countries. So how are we doing now?
Answer: we're now 19th out of 19. The rest of the countries have improved their performance by an average of 16%, while the U.S., that well-known engine of healthcare innovation, has improved by only 4%. So now we're in last place.
But there's a bright side: at least our healthcare isn't funded by the government, like it is in France."
The kicker? If you go to the link, you'll see the graph & guess who ranks first? Yup, those damn cheese eating surrender monkeys (who have very good government paid healthcare) the French.
Thank god we're all getting bled dry. You can now start chanting: "We're 19th! We're 19th!"
I beat you to it. -nt.
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You're right you did.
My hat is off to you. Sorry, I posted before I read.
I hope you know I wasn't really condemning you. :)
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So tell me...
How did they adjust the study for the generally unhealthy lifestyles that many American's lead (or the lifestyle choices of any country for that matter)?
If we're going to isolate healthcare as the cause, scientific study demands that we do so.
I don't know.
It seems this study is somewhat narrowly based. But I can't tell you the meathodology used. I did not read the whole study that was put out.
Found the study, I think
I think this
is it.
And, no surprise, the methodology is obviously broken. This is only slightly better than studies comparing life expectancy. They seem to have simply broken down deaths by cause and age, and classified each cause as being either something that the health care system "ought" to be able to potentially cure or not.
Yet this is ridiculous. For example, incidence rates of heart disease and cancer vary wildly across nations and populations, and are affected by numerous factors having absolutely nothing to do with the health care system.
They even admit as much:
They then "correct" for this in a completely absurd fashion:
The study concludes that:
Yet they provide little or no evidence to support such an assertion.
Because french food is so healthy?
Sorry, you have a good point but given the monstrosity of capillary clogging confectionary that is french cuisine I found it funny.
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I think I speak for everyone when I ask
When can we expect a Hagar the Horrible movie starring John Goodman as Hagar and Steve Buscemi as Lucky Eddie?
Which candidate will be the first to call for this?
In other wierdness:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/09/nyregion/09dead.html?ref=nyregion
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By far the most important issue of the campaign
...which, unfortunately, almost no one is discussing.
Robert Samuelson
:
...
Another good point
Much of redistribution isn't rich to poor, its young to old.
Why is that, you ask? Young people don't vote. Old people do. Of course, that doesn't make it right, but it is an explanation.
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By far the most important?
Way more important than issues like nuclear proliferation, rule of law, the lives of our soldiers and how and when we go to war huh?
Well, at least you admit that the so called "existential battle with islamofascist terrorists" is a load of hooey.
God damn, office politics suck. -nt
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sorry bro, I hear ya
though mainly for me it is more of "other office coworkers" suck :)
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
That's basically what I meant too
I was just being political about it.
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lol your are funny dude n/t
"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR
Exhibit A
...that the Army recruits idiots.
It doesn't matter how explicitly history makes the point, many military officers refuse to ever learn.
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Anyone see Jon Stewart last night?
Here's a clip of him discussing Hillary's teary eyed "breakdown".
It is really funny.
What's even more fun? The way they splice in Rudy shamelessly bringing up 9/11.
Welcome back Jon. Please ask Comedy Central to sign the contract with your writers.