Think Tanks are valuable sources of information. No doubt. But at the same time, I think most people can admit that they can also obscure debates on issues because they do their job too well.
In a way, I'm reminded of a previous diary that grumbles a bit about the complexity of stats and how it would seem that the same raw numbers can made to support opposing arguments....gotta hand it to those think tanks.
Megan McArdle has two posting on the issue: the first here and the follow up here
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First, the statement...ala "New Rules" by Bill Maher:
You are not allowed to argue in favor of school choice if the only evidence you can come up with is two links from Cato. You are not allowed to argue against global warming if you are relying entirely on a report from CEI. You are not allowed to talk about the recording industry based only upon press releases from the Progress and Freedom Foundation. And you are definitely, definitely not allowed to talk to me about the minimum wage if the best evidence for your position comes from EPI.
So basically, she seems to be saying that when we are debating the pros and cons of a hot button issue, we cannot and should not simply pull a "VOILA" and back up our favored positions with a simple link to research done by think tanks whose life purpose is to argue in favor of that issue. That can be a tall order, indeed. Think Tanks do all the hard work for us. It's too easy. Of course, on that note, I can honestly say that sometimes I look at research from from a think tank arguing the opposing position and I see the flaw in the what they are saying...in can be methodological, one of omission or simply something that seems relevant but really isn't. This is quite different than plugging ones ears and simply assuming they are lying.
The context of Megan's first post is on a previous post on minimum wage and her critique of the Economic Policy Institute (EPI), a think funded by unions and labor interests to argue in favor of issues from that POV. Click through and read the rest if you'd like. But the idea is simply that she doesn't hold their predictable opinions on such a matter in very high regard.
On Megan's second post, she seems to preempt the argument to the contrary with some balance. In it, she says that she doesn't rely on think tanks that argue her preferred position on an issue. But at the same time, she clarifies what I think is a good assessment of think tanks and their value:
I think they do a lot of good work. But the political policy ones do their best work when they are trying to decide policy within a movement; that's when you start seeing real innovative work. They are also very good at providing critiques of academic work in their areas of interest.
When they turn to fighting outsiders over, say, the minimum wage, the quality of their work sharply degrades. They have limited ability to change their policy position, because the donors will revolt; if they can't get an answer the donors will like, they don't ask the questions. They also only hire scholars who agree with them. That already biases their work, but then you have to contend with the groupthink problem: when everyone at the office agrees with you that your opponents are idiots, and you socialize mostly with other people in the movement, your thinking gets a tad lazy.
So if the only support for your positions comes from movement think tanks (plus maybe a few marginal academics), your position is probably extremely weak. Indeed, if someone from the other side were pulling the same trick, you would be the first to notice this. Independent studies commissioned by think tanks are especially suspect. You can't check their calculations, and survey design is easily manipulable to get the answer you want.
Concluding advice,
When debating an issue, it's better to use think tanks as a secondary source when their numbers are backed up from a more neutral source like the Census Bureau, the GAO, the CBO or the JEC...among others.
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Excellent post, John. One
Excellent post, John.
One way I use partisan/ideologically-oriented think tanks is to get a sense of bounds -- of how far each side is going with the rationale behind the policies they advocate.
Case in point: Advocacy of tax cuts (or avoidance of tax increases), and the related claim, often repeated by conservative/Republican non-economists (politicians, radio hosts, and ordinary folk), that "tax cuts increase revenues".
Some of the first places I checked in my research on this claim were CONSERVATIVE think tanks, along with blogs and writings of CONSERVATIVE economists. In other words, I wanted to see what was being said on this question (of the degree of revenue feedback effect of tax cuts) by economists and other tax/budget policy experts who generally FAVORED tax cuts and who may be subject to bias or who may even be insincere in the analytical conclusions they present in SUPPORT of tax cuts.
I found a pretty strong consensus even among those folks that the Bush tax cuts were substantial net losers of revenue (and would be even over the long term), and that as a general rule, tax cuts from anywhere close to current rates are net revenue losers. http://swordscrossed.org/node/1671 That was pretty convincing to me.
It's kind of like when a salesman who is trying to sell you a product acknowledges the limitations of the product or even some of the weaknesses or drawbacks of the product. If he has the expertise and the motive to hide that fact or deny it, but he acknowleges it, it has some weight in terms of credibility.
Well said
I think this is part and parcel of the wave of anti-intellectualism that's sweeping the nation and has been for the last decade or so.
People spin numbers and facts so much, the average person can't help but throw their hands in the air. Facts must not be objective anymore....
The salesman analogy is dead-on. Think tanks and other spinners are selling their ideology. Rather than try to determine how society, the economy, etc. is they'd rather rely on how they think it should be and then remake the world in that image. They then try to convince others that the world actually is how they want it to be and then proceed to screw it up.
This "TAX CUTS GOOD" or "OIL COMPANIES BAD" black and white thinking is really about making a very complex world seem easy to understand. And as is usually the case, when you throw away data like that, the accuracy of your answer is going to suffer for it.
I don't doubt that objective truth exists in soft sciences like economics, sociology, and psychology, but we haven't figured out these truths with any degree of certainty that exists in hard sciences (in fact, that is what makes them soft sciences). I can tell you exactly what will happen if a 10 N force is applied to a 1 KG mass. If taxes are cut by 10% across the board, I can only give you a rough estimation (that may not be right) of what will happen.
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Thanks. FYI, I found this
Thanks. FYI, I found this book worthwhile http://www.amazon.com/True-Enough-Learning-Post-Fact-Society/dp/04700501...
Nothing unexpected, but good examples of the disturbing trend toward people using the increasingly fragmented media just to confirm what they want to believe rather than to seek a better understanding a sense of what is correct (or more likely to be correct). Put differently, people are increasingly using media the way a drunk uses a lamppost: more for support than illumnination.
And kudos to SwordsCrossed, the contributors and commenters for being an oasis in the desert of hyperpartisan, talking point, echo chamber political blogs. I keep trying to engage in substantive, rational, responsive discussion/debate on such blogs (on the left and the right), but more often than not in vain. People reflexively go in to attack mode and can't or won't engage substantively and responsively.
Again, SwordsCrossed is my oasis. Generally speaking, folks here actually respond to the actual arguments made (or questions posed) by the other person (what a concept!) instead of throwing out straw men or personal attacks in lieu of actual answers/responses. I only wish it were the norm in the blogosphere rather than the exception.
To any who found this diary even remotely interesting,
A Cato scholar responded to Megan McArdle's postings on think tanks.
And she responded backed
with a worthwhile read.
See Megan's link for Cato link. I'm being lazy.
Anyway, the liberal Economic Policy Institute is supposedly going to be responding as well. I can't wait....