Edited the title in the vein of stinerman. - Specter
Jobless rate takes biggest jump since '86 - the jump to 5.5% is somewhat worrying. Let's hope it is not a trend.
McCain sets his sights on Clinton supporters - and he'll need them if Grandpa wants to stay competitive. Besides his poor teeth he has plenty of other problems going forward even against a candidate with a lot of baggage like Obama.
Obama, Clinton talk unity - good for them. I doubt Hillary has the power bring all of her supporters over. I do not see Obama being very competitive for Reagan Democrats.
Have a great Friday!
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Stock Market Plummets
today on jobs report. The dollar is weakening. Oil goes up almost $7 in an hour to nearly $135 as investors look to hedge their bets against inflation. This is just pure speculation by traders and has zero to do with the real cost of oil. Boo/hiss.
Wal-Mart is thumping it's chest and holding their 'Wal-Mart Nation' rally complete with rock bands, rousing patriotic feelings to celebrate the Wal-Mart brand. Why does this remind me of China. Will Wal-Mart be able to infiltrate Russia? They have set their sites on expanding the Big Box store to the old Soviet Union.
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I don't like either of the two presidential candidates much.
Here's why:
First of all, McCain's too much of an old war-horse, who'd more than likely keep us in Iraq indefinitely, and then get us into yet another war, with Iran. McCain also advocates the overturning of Roe v. Wade, which is a dangerous precedent, because it would mean reverting back to the days where women would become seriously ill and/or die from illegal, unsafe abortions at the hands of unscrupulous back-alley butchers with unsanitary practices, tools and hands, increase the welfare rolls, the number of shotgun weddings, the amount of crime and domestic violence. This country has too many problems-we don't need more. McCain would also have open borders for undocumented workers--something else we don't need. McCain has never, ever suggested cutting our miltary budget to pay for necessary programs, nor has he suggested taking the media out of the hands of the big corporations, nor has he suggested rescinding NAFTA or CAFTA, or dismantling the Department of Homeland Security or the Patriot Act. Both of the latter are real dangers to our civil liberties. McCain is also too much of a loose cannon, to boot; he's got a legendary temper, which he doesn't keep under wraps. Presidents are in contact with leaders, etc., throughout the world. How's it going to look when McCain disagrees with another world leader on something, or fails to get his way on whatever, and then McCain blows his top? In any case, this man cannot be trusted at the switch, if one gets the drift.
Obama, on the other hand, has better positions on many things than McCain does. However, he exudes a rather sleek, phony charisma, and all his talk about change, unity , hope, etc, are definitely long on rhetoric, with no real substance, coming off like a salesman. The fact that Barack Obama is a poster-child for globalization, which has been a disaster for the USA and
elsewhere doesn't help either, imo. He has also not advocated cutting our military budget to pay for necessary domestic programs, dismantling the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act, or rescinding NAFTA and CAFTA, all of which have been disastrous. Nor has he suggested taking the media out of the hands of the big corporations here in the United States. Barack Obama also alienated many white workingclass voters by broadbrushing them with comments such as "they cling to guns and religion because they're bitter". While it's true that some white workingclass people do cling to guns and religion and are bitter and bigoted, this doesn't apply to all white workingclass people.
Another broadbrushing comment' " Americans can't drive SUV's, eat as much as they want, keep t heir heat at well above 70 degrees, or keep their A/C's on fullblast in the summertime ", while definitely does apply to a lot of Americans, there are plenty of Americans who're not that wasteful.
The fact that Obama addressed the fact that manufacturing jobs have gone offshore and many workingclass people have lost their healthcare, pensions, etc., as a result, is a good thing, especially because not many politicians do address these issues. However, overgeneralizing hasn't been helpful, and, if the Democratic Party is to succeed, serious attempts must be made to re-engage the interest of the bluecollar white ethnics throughout the United States. I also think, however, that some of the people that Obama has surrounded himself with are questionable; Rev. Wright, coming off with incendiary lines such as "KKK America", "Goddamn America". "The chickens have come home to roost:", exudes a much different personality than MLK did 40 years ago: MLK told the truths too, but, unlike Rev. Wright, he never, ever resorted to telling the truth in an inflammatory way.
I want a president who will dismantle the Patriot Act, close Guantanamo, and dismantle the Department of Homeland Security , because the PA and the DHS are real dangers to our civil liberties. I want a president who'll write up and implement, with all deliberate speed, an adequate, comprehensive universal health care for all Americans, whoever they may be. I want a President who'll work to dismantle the ghettoes here in tthe United States and help create integrated neighborhoods and eliminate the need for such divisive policies as mandatory school busing, which, in many instances, failed miserably and made many people even more angry, tight-fisted, fearful and suspicious of each other, and failed to achieve what it set out to do. I also want a president who'll take the media out of the hands of the big corporations. I want a president who'll really and truly be a uniter of all people of all racial, ethnic, religious and class boundaries here in the United States, and who's more real...and authentic. I want a President who'll speak the truth to people, while making people aware of where everyone, including himself has come from, without resorting to inflammatory rhetoric. This has not happened for the past 40 years, which is very disappointing to me. I also want a president who'll write up a comprehensive Universal healthcare plan for all Americans (Dennis Kucinich comes to mind here), and I want somebody who won't continue to act like the world's topcop. I want a president who'll implement the necessary 2 -state solution to the I/.P conflict.
All of the above having been said, I do not have faith that either McCain or Obama have the willingness or ability to really lead this country and change what's really necessary. Neither McCain or Obama, imho, are the right choices, and, here's a surprise for everybody: If there's a viable third-party Candidate, I'm seriously considering voting for them, or simply going to the polls and writing somebody's name in that I find more appealing than either of the two candidates we've got right now. Thanks for letting me vent, folks.
I used to have respect for McCain, even though I didn't
agree with some of his stances. His whole persona and ideals pretty much went out the window after he lost to dubya in 2000. After that, he just copied what Bush did. Principled and independent republicans I could vote for. A boot licking syncophant.....naaa. Why?
Obama wasn't my first choice. My first choice was Dodd, then Edwards and after that I went to Obama.
I agree with you about comprehensive health care though. Right now that's one of the reasons America isn't as competative as the rest of the industrialized world. Our businesses and citizens are paying way more for what they get than any other comparible 1st world country.
This woulod make
a good stand-alone diary.
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Very funny. Like The Onion though, it probably isn't too
far from some future truth though.
Let's try to keep the unemployment rate in perspective ...
sure, the "jump" was big but the current "level" is not, historically speaking.
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You all are so lucky I don't know the href code to post
pictures and graphs. Seriously.
As far as the unemployment rate, I don't think the figure holds as much validity as it used to. Right now it only covers people who are receiving unemployment checks. When Bush first came into office one of the things they did was drop all the people who weren't employed, but weren't receiving government checks any longer from the data.
The current unemployment index means something, but it doesn't mean that is a percentage of folks who don't have jobs.
And fast food employees work in the manufacturing industry too.
Whats wrong with changing the criteria for anything, not applying the change in criteria to past data, and then comparing current data and past data?
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And the same to you ...
please provide something to substantiate that the BLS is providing an incorrect chart ...
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Garbage in, Garbage Out, like my cost accounting prof would say.
If the very criteria for what is "unemployed" is, has changed at some point in the chart and all data is not retroactively changed to reflect the new definition, then the chart is worthless.
Its like saying Deacon Jones was a horrible pass rusher because he had no official sacks, even though sacks weren't not an official stat back then.
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That much is obvious ...
but until you substantiate that this even applies to the data provided it remains an interesting but completely irrelevant factlet. Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to demonstrate that this factlet applies in this situation.
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Done?
Source: kindness
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Hey, I just copied and pasted it from the BLS site ...
Go here.
Actually I also saved a copy of the chart to photobucket so it wouldn't go stale, but all the data is right there from their site. If the data are bogus as you claim then complain to the BLS. In the mean time do you have something to back up your claim of a change, and more importantly something to indicate that it was done at Bush's request?
At the top of that page you can adjust the years covered. I just went back as far as they allowed.
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What's it good for.
Around 1950 the unemployment rate dropped a lot, same thing happened around the mid 60's, thats odd.
__________________________In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
What's it good for?
Based on the dates you cite (and the associated US activities that you seem to be alluding to) I would say that it is a good indicator of how Democrat Presidents solve their unemployment problems.
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Coulter/GR satire logic back at ya.
"I would say that it is a good indicator of how Democrat Presidents solve their unemployment problems, [by not appeasing extremely authoritarian governments]"
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Its too bad the GOP likes appeasing authoritarian governments and a high unemployment rate.
__________________________In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
A somewhat fair reply, actually ...
that is, of course, one obvious side effect of their chosen courses of action ... but was it the primary driver? Perhaps. But so could the unemployment rate have been! :)
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And here is another perspective ...