Tuesday Open Thread

Mike, feel free to edit this one, if you feel like adding something.

This is an open thread, so what's up with you guys?

UPDATE by Mike P: OJ's book deal and Fox Interview are cancelled. Iraq and Syria are talking. (link ) A Lebanese Christian leader has been assassinated. (link )And breaking news is that Filmmaker Robert Altman, who made the movie M*A*S*H, has died.

So what are your plans for Thanksgiving? I've been busy wrapping up work details the last couple of days and haven't had much time to blog. I'm looking forward to some time off.

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Argh

Where is the open italics tag? I put a close tag at the beginning of the next piece for now...

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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I know, some weird stuff, I'll look into it n/t

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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I am just

spending this Thanksgiving with my family as usual. Not gonna go anywhere except for the movies.

It's good to be off :)

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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New Orleans bound

I'm off to New Orleans tomorrow to visit family for Thanksgiving. First time back since Katrina. Wondering whether I should go by and see what's left of my old high school.

qui tacet consentire

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Ha!

I just got back last night. Where'd you go to high school, by the way?

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Slidell High

qui tacet consentire

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Yeah, it won't be pretty.

I went to school in the lower 9th (HC), but they were close enough to the river that they only got a few feet of water, although the gym roof was ripped apart. And the idiots had all their archives on the first floor, so stuff over a hundred years old was lost. :(

Travel safely and have a good Thanksgiving!

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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I'll be in New Orleanes...

...for New Years this year! I was there for New Years last year and had a blast.

"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
-Thomas Paine: The American Crisis, No. 4, 1777

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Good lord,

half of SC is in New Orleans (I'll be there for New Year's, as well). What are the chances of that?

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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Crossing the street in london

A good post found via Andrew Sullivan:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/mlasalle/detail?blogid=38&entry_id=1...

I tend to agree with the sentiment- I want to see the conservatives get their house back in order and stop flirting with fascism. The conservative ideals have some merit, so stop ignoring them in favor of authoritarianism 101.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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hrrrm.

Okay how do I make links now?

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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they will work from now on :)

fixed.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Domo!

You've been on top of the little updates. Nice job.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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no problem

you like the black color for your comments, or would you prefer something else?

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Me likey! -nt

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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heh I like this video

The woman (Dem congressional candidate Patricia Madrid) with the embarrassing response just conceded today.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Music

I'm currently listening to Rush (Chronicles, a best of album). Hows about you?

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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Oh, man

what a band. Counterparts is good. Roll the Bones is good. Ever been to a Rush concert? I was so glad when they shot those damn rabbits. . . .

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Unfortunately no

I was never much for concerts. I went to some, but nearly as many as I should have.

Imagine a man
when it all began
the pilot of Enola Gay
flying out of the shockwave
on that August day
All the powers that be
and the cords of history
would be changed
forever more

-Rush, Manhatten Project

I have to admit that with my background the Manhatten Project has taken on an almost religious cast of simultaneous awe and dread. Hard to express how the idea of it makes me feel but the song does it.

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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In concert

they did this song to actual footage of the blast. Chilling. All the brightest boys indeed . . . But rabbit thing was priceless. They had been using these two huge inflatable rabbits at every concert since the Presto album, and the regulars were really tired of seeing the blasted things. So, in the Test for Echo tour, the rabbits emerged yet again, some of the crowd groans, and during the set Elmer Fudd appears on the screen and blasts 'em to bits.

I love Rush. Peart's philosophy speaks to my soul in simple stanzas. I am still waiting for them to speak to current events. Took me a year to open Vapor Trails. Funny, huh.

Sorry to digress the thread but it's a favorite band . . . and they do speak to political topics.

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I just got Josh Trevino's new post from the

Claremont Institute. He shreds Keith Obermann's remarks from 2 nights ago and it's titled Obermann's Dominos.

Now I've stopped linking Keiths posts here because I felt like I was talking to myself & didn't want to appear a total tonedeaf cheerleader of the left. But since it's part of Josh's points, you may want to take a look at the actual piece via Crooks and Liars.

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I like your links

I may have nothing to add, but I still read them.

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agreed

Especially the Joshua Trevino links :)

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Positive Devt's in Iraq--True?

According to credible Iraqi sources in London and Amman, a secret story of America's diplomatic exit strategy from Iraq is rapidly unfolding. The key events include:

First, James Baker told one of Saddam Hussein's lawyers that Tariq Aziz, former deputy prime minister, would be released from detention by the end of this year, in hope that he will negotiate with the US on behalf of the Baath Party leadership.

The discussion recently took place in Amman, according to the Iraqi paper al-Quds al-Arabi.

Second, Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice personally appealed to the Gulf Cooperation Council in October to serve as intermediaries between the US and armed Sunni resistance groups [not including al Qaeda], communicating a US willingness to negotiate with them at any time or place. Speaking in early October, Rice joked that if then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld "heard me now, he would wage a war on me fiercer and hotter than he waged on Iraq," according to an Arab diplomat privy to the closed session.

Third, there was an "unprecedented" secret meeting of high-level Americans and representatives of "a primary component of the Iraqi resistance" two weeks ago, lasting for three days. As a result, the Iraqis agreed to return to the talks in the next two weeks with a response for the American side, according to Jordanian press leaks and al-Quds al-Arabi.

Fourth, detailed email transmissions dated November 16 reveal an active American effort behind the scenes to broker a peace agreement with Iraqi resistance leaders, a plot that could include a political coup against Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

Fifth, Bush security adviser Stephen Hadley carried a six-point message for Iraqi officials on his recent trip to Baghdad:include Iraqi resistance and opposition leaders in any initiative towards national reconciliation;general amnesty for the armed resistance fighters;dissolve the Iraqi commission charged with banning the Baath Party;start the disbanding of militias and death squads;cancel any federalism proposal to divide Iraq into three regions, and combine central authority for the central government with greater self-rule for local governors;distribute oil revenues in a fair manner to all Iraqis, including the Sunnis whose regions lack the resource.

Prime Minister Al-Maliki was unable to accept the American proposals because of his institutional allegiance to Shiite parties who believe their historic moment has arrived after one thousand years of Sunni domination. That Shiite refusal has accelerated secret American efforts to pressure, re-organize, or remove the elected al-Maliki regime from power.

The Backstory

Underlying these developments are three American concerns: first, the deepening quagmire and sectarian strife on the battlefield; second, the mid-year American elections in which voters repudiated the war; and third, the strategic concern that the new Iraq has slip.....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-hayden/us-retreat-from-iraq-t_b_34675....

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it is interesting

but who knows if any of this is true.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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I am ...

1) Supportive of negotiations with the non-al Qaeda insurgents.
2) NOT supportive of any efforts on our part to remove al-Maliki.
3) Supportive of attempts to keep the country whole.
4) Supportive of efforts to find a lasting compromise between the factions that will allow democracy to take hold.

I'm the Bugs Bunny of Swords Crossed!
-4 Strongly Disagree - 0 Meh - Strongly Agree +4

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I agree with points 1,2 and 4

It would be nice if the country could be held together and everyone could just get along with each other, but that line was crossed long ago.

Humpty Dumpty got blown off the wall with an RPG and no one can even find the pieces, let alone put him back together.

That's how far gone Iraq is as a nation.

qui tacet consentire

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:-) I like the Humpty Dumpty image! n/t

I'm the Bugs Bunny of Swords Crossed!
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