A Brief History of the War on Xmas

I'll start off the contra side of the debate with two simple facts from those radical leftist ideologues at the History Channel:

Congress was in session on December 25, 1789, the first Christmas under America's new constitution. Christmas wasn't declared a federal holiday until June 26, 1870.

So that takes care of the "tradition" side of the argument in some two dozen words. But I'll back up a bit and talk about the history of the War rather than the Holiday, because the former has totally eclipsed the latter.

The term "War on Christmas" was coined in 1999 by our racist friends at VDare - the people whose particular style of analysis (check this jaw-dropping article ) was enough to get them slapped with a "hate group" label by the SPLC. Since it's been picked up by FOX News as one of their leading hooks for the Holiday Christmas season, commentators like Bill O'Reilly have scrambled to find enough material to keep the 80% Christian majority in this country terrified that they're losing the battle to the 20% who couldn't care less.

There's a problem with this strategy: empty threats don't keep the public's attention for long, the history doesn't support the argument, and the actual facts on the ground are pretty slim. O'Reilly usually takes the more shameless route by inventing scandals out of thin air, whether it's companies that have banned their employees from saying "Merry Christmas" (they haven't ) or pernicious liberal teachers rewriting the lyrics to Christmas songs in order to brainwash their students (they weren't ) or school districts banning red and green clothing (they aren't ... is he even trying with this one?). Occasionally they get one right: quaoar gave an example of how an over-eager town official stopped a set of Christmas carols on behalf of a Jewish performer who couldn't care less, although even that was less an anti-Christmas gesture as an ill-advised attempt at inclusiveness.

All said, this may be the one war founded on even faultier intelligence than the one in Iraq.

I wish I could say the silly transparency of O'Reilly's claims have been enough to scuttle them outright, but the sad fact is that the memes are sticking. During Thanksgiving, my mom told me in horror about how her entire drive to New Orleans was filled with my grandparents' wailing over the way atheists were trying to destroy Christmas, and how dare those stores tell their employees they can't wish someone a Merry Christmas. (Lest you think I got even a glimmer of hope out of my conservative mom's disgust, she immediately followed that with "I agree that what those people are doing to Christmas is wrong, but I was just tired of your grandparents complaining about it so much.")

I'll give you one thing: some stores don't like wishing people a Merry Christmas. But it's not because of any liberal, leftist, atheist, George-Soros-funded conspiracy to trample tradition into the mud: it's because it makes good business sense. The term "Christmas", though hardly objectionable to anyone, still has less pulling power than the more generic term "Holidays", which caters to 100% of your potential clientele. This is Business 101, folks. It's not until the ultra-right gets its collective panties in a bunch and threatens a boycott that the "Christmas" label becomes more likely to draw profit than the "Holiday" label.

That brings up an important point: if this is a war, who exactly is doing the fighting? We have an aligned set of conservative interests: FOX news, racist websites, conservative Christians, groups that find the strangest things to protest , and my grandparents. But who's on the other side?

We've already ruled out school district superintendents and Scrooge-like bosses.

Is it the ACLU? If so, they've got a pitifully mixed record : on the one hand, they've taken the government to court over Christmas displays on public property, but on the other, they've defended cases of religious expression on the part of citizens and churches who've been denied the right to celebrate Christmas on public property. We can either group them under "confused third-party combatants", or we can acknowledge that their role in each of these cases is the same: to protect Christmas-oriented speech on the parts of inviduals and groups while preventing the establishment of Christmas as a public blanket.

Is it the liberal media? I certainly hope not. By acknowledging the meme "War on Christmas" with anything like serious debate, they've helped perpetuate it. Nothing serves to allow stupidity to float to the surface by having a faux-debate on the topic, as if it deserves two sides. Fortunately, the one time CNN tried this, their representative on the left flipped it upside down completely by turning it into a circus . Which is fine by me: why bother debating something that doesn't merit it?

But if you have to bring it up - since it does occasionally come up - you might as well have fun with it and expose it for the transparent baiting it is. And have fun with it.

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Apparently it's all the Jews' fault

SEATAC, Washington (AP) -- All nine Christmas trees have been removed from the Seattle-Tacoma International Airport instead of adding a giant Jewish menorah to the holiday display as a rabbi had requested.

Maintenance workers boxed up the trees during the graveyard shift early Saturday, when airport bosses believed few people would notice.

"We decided to take the trees down because we didn't want to be exclusive," said airport spokeswoman Terri-Ann Betancourt. "We're trying to be thoughtful and respectful, and will review policies after the first of the year."

Rabbi Elazar Bogomilsky, who made his request weeks ago, said he was appalled by the decision. He had hired a lawyer and threatened to sue if the Port of Seattle didn't add the menorah next to the trees, which had been festooned with red ribbons and bows.

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Of course, by the next day, the forces of Good had vanquished the enemy and the Evil Jew surrendered.

Davis added that the rabbi "never asked us to remove the trees; it was the port's decision based on what we knew at the time."

There were no immediate plans to display a menorah, airport spokesman Bob Parker said, saying restoration of the trees was expected to take place overnight Monday.

"A key element in moving forward will be to work with the rabbi and other members of the community to develop a plan for next year's holiday decorations at the airport," the port statement said.

The rabbi has also offered to give the port an electric menorah to display, said his lawyer, Harvey Grad.

"We are not going to be the instrument by which the port holds Christmas hostage," Grad said, emphasizing the rabbi never sought removal of the trees, but addition of the menorah.

The rabbi had received "all kinds of calls and emails," many of them "odious," Grad said, adding he was "trying to figure out how this is consistent with the spirit of Christmas."

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From what I understand,

we call our heritage "Judeo-Christian" when we want to appear more open, but "Christian" when we find the Jews threatening in some way.

Thanks for that article - this is the best line ever:

The rabbi had received "all kinds of calls and emails," many of them "odious," Grad said, adding he was "trying to figure out how this is consistent with the spirit of Christmas."

If I were that rabbi, I'd respond to the more odious complaints asking how they were consistent with the spirit of Hanukkah. Not that they're likely to care.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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and if that moron rabbi

didn't start the whole issue with complaining and threatening to sue, he wouldn't get any of the "odious" calls. I am surprised that's all that retard got.

I am sure he was just acting consistent with the spirit of Christmas that he accuses his callers of not following.

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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incidentally

I am on the side of Fox News in this epic battle :)

"To discuss evil in a manner implying neutrality, is to sanction it." AR

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Care to explain why?

Do you have any reasons? Did you read that most of the evidence given by Fox and Oh' Lielly are fabrications and misrepresentations?

We are all mediators, translators. - Derrida
http://signicide.blogspot.com/

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Why should a rabbi

give a flying F about the "spirit of Christmas"? More to the point, how is asking them to put a menorah up problematic?

- If it's not problematic, then it should be up there.
- If it is problematic, then a Christmas display shouldn't be either.

You lose either side of this argument.

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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It was handled badly all around

1. The rabbi should have made his request without threatening to sue.
2. Is it that damn onerous to put a menorah on display somewhere?
3. Why is the airport so afraid of lawsuits? Isn't this why they have lawyers on retainer?

My response to someone wanting to sue over a Christmas display would be, "See you in court."

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What makes you think he didn't?

What does the rabbi do after he is told to go away? Accused of engaging in a War on Christmas? Sometimes a lawsuit just comes next.

The only reason this went away is because somebody sued.

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Having a little fun

Is it time to take the "War on Christmas" to Israel.

Liberal Feelings vs. Judeo-Christian Values

One of the un-great articles written explaining "the culture wars".

Almost every great evil has been solved by war -- Dennis Prager

...in a nutshell, is what our culture war is about -- Judeo-Christian values versus liberal/leftist feelings.-- Dennis Prager

Merry Christmas Dennis. Can I put my Christmas tree next to your wailing wall?

More Fake Controversy in the culture wars.

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Good job pico

The "why don't stores wish customers Merry Christmas?" one has always struck me as ludicrous, as if there's some sort of ulterior motive beyond the obvious desire to maximize profit by attracting as many customers as possible.

Sorry I haven't been around, by the way -- end of the semester insanity. I'll be back =)

Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson

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Nice, pico.

The sad thing is that you'd have to post this at all, but having had to you at least do it very well. :)

I came. I saw. I posted.
Veni, Vidi, Bitchy.

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Thank you -

doubly sad, this is the source of plenty grief in my household, since Christmas isn't really something I celebrate. My Catholic family has finally understood that I'm not interested in going to mass with them on Christmas Eve, although one aunt is still hard at work to convert me, so who knows?

Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce

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But Midnight Mass is so beautiful!

The full choir. The trumpets. The pomp.

I haven't been in years, either.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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Family is worth a Mass

. . .to paraphrase Henri IV (or some such French king).

After your parochial school experience, you should be well versed in Mass survival. If it makes your aged relatives happy, what's one Mass. We similarly torture our younger relatives when the family is together at Christmas, which is not often. They survive.

But I'd vote for Christmas day. Midnight Mass is too long IMHO. And I'm too old to enjoy staying up that late anymore, especially for church.

"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire."  --R. Heinlein

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The War on Jesus

At least "The War on MY Jesus."

See, MY Jesus believes that we should attempt to change homosexuals back to heterosexuals.

MY Jesus believes that there is no such thing as evolution and, thus, it shouldn't be taught in schools.

MY Jesus believes that we should get to decide what to do with your vegetative loved ones (see: Terri Schiavo).

MY Jesus believes that Muslims, Jews and anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus as Lord is condemned to Hell.

MY Jesus says that I should impose ALL of these points of view on everyone who is not like me.

MY Jesus says that then I get to whine without a trace of irony when others ask that I be more tolerant of those who are not me.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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Your Jesus

sounds so much nicer than some of the other Jesus's I have heard about from preachers, like the one is filled with so many prejudices against gays, loose women, muslems and democrats!

Your Jesus sounds a lot more approachable and friendlier.

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Two holidays

I've watched a few Christmas movies in the past few weeks, things like Santa Clause 2, Polar Express and the Grinch.

What they all have in common is that they are concerned with a purely secular holiday. There is no acknowledgment of Christianity. The plots all deal exclusively with Santa, presents and being nice. This is actually the holiday that the O'Reilly's are defending. The images are all derived from pagan and pre-Christian celebrations. The issue of what happens in a store should be of no interest to the truly religious since none of this is part of the nativity story.

It is not surprising that radio hosts who make their living via hucksterism should focus on the commercial aspects of the holiday. Is there actually any sign that O'Reilly, Limbaugh and the rest of the crew are devout themselves?

The other holiday (the one that takes place in churches) is a combination of joyfulness and solemness and has nothing to do with Santa or presents. Did any of them notice this?

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Oh sure.

Is there actually any sign that O'Reilly, Limbaugh and the rest of the crew are devout themselves?

O'Reilly won't have extra-marital sex on Sundays. And Limbaugh says a prayer before every sexual experience when he goes to to the Dominican Republic on one of his sex junkets.

If you really believe this is the "fight of our lives," how come you're not in Iraq?

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i think the same


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