Understanding the role of race in modern American politics
"Sen. Obama, this is truly a good day for America. Too often the achievements of our opponents go unnoticed," McCain says to the camera. "So I wanted to stop and say, congratulations. How perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day. Tomorrow, we'll be back at it. But tonight senator, job well done."
That was McCain's classy congratulation to Obama for accepting the Democratic nomination for President on the anniversary of MLK's "I have a dream" speech. This historic event certainly demonstrated just how far America has come towards realizing King's dream. However, we don't yet live in a race-blind society.
Political campaigns are run with the goal of winning an election. As such, they need to fully understand how voters make decisions, and in what ways voters are persuadable. Some campaigns will avoid "dirty politics" -- tactics that would be effective but which it is felt cross an ethical line. Some won't. You as an informed citizen ought to understand how the issue of race can be exploited by campaigns, and then you can decide for yourself whether a particular campaign is playing to racial sentiments.
Let us acknowledge upfront that the vast majority of politicians today are not themselves racist, although this Presidential race has brought out a few instances of highly questionable rhetoric (Rep. Davis, R-Ky, referred to Obama as "boy" and Rep. Westmoreland, R-Ga, described Obama as "uppity"
). In fact, let us be very careful with the term "racism" itself, which is defined
in very strong language. Certainly racial messages can express racism, and can be made by racists, but it's not clear to me that we gain anything by insisting upon the necessity that this be so. I'll try to use "racial" throughout, with the simple definition of "relating to race."
Before we dive in, we should also briefly address the so-called Bradley (or Wilder) effect, meaning the alleged tendency of voters to lie to pollsters by saying they will vote for a black candidate in order to not appear racist. There is no evidence that such an effect currently exists, so there is no reason to believe that polling in this election is overstating Obama's support. From the link:
Hopkins looked at all senatorial and gubernatorial races that featured a woman or an African-American candidate from 1989 to 2006 -- a total of 133 races. For each, he found at least one poll released within a month of Election Day, enabling him to measure the gap between a candidate's polling and performance. Hopkins finds some evidence that African-American candidates suffered from something resembling a Wilder effect before 1996, but since then, the effect seems to have disappeared.
See also this excellent analysis of the primary race. Of course events could cause support to shift, and this would then show in the next round of polling, but the take-away point is that the degree to which Obama is losing votes because of his race is already factored into the polls (as is the offsetting degree to which he gains votes because of his race).
Perhaps the defining work on race in politics is The Race Card , by Tali Mendelberg (Google books
). From the Princeton books site:
In the age of equality, politicians cannot prime race with impunity due to a norm of racial equality that prohibits racist speech. Yet incentives to appeal to white voters remain strong. As a result, politicians often resort to more subtle uses of race to win elections. Mendelberg documents the development of this implicit communication across time and measures its impact on society.
[...] Mendelberg's conclusion is that politicians--including many current state governors--continue to play the race card, using terms like "welfare" and "crime" to manipulate white voters' sentiments without overtly violating egalitarian norms. But she offers some good news: implicitly racial messages lose their appeal, even among their target audience, when their content is exposed.
This differentiation between explicit and implicit racial messaging is critical. There is no incentive for a political campaign to express explicitly racist or racial messages; voters will punish them for crossing that bright line. This is to our credit as a society. However, there are voters that harbor prejudices and there is an incentive for a campaign to activate those prejudices. This is possible to do via implicit racial messaging, for example negative advertising that evokes racial stereotypes without explicitly introducing race. Such an approach sidesteps the drawbacks of explicit messaging while still connecting with the target audience. Not only does the campaign maintain plausible deniability, viewers don't even necessarily realize they are being influenced on a racial level.
Since the publication of The Race Card, there has been significant additional work done on this topic, and there have also been many more opportunities to collect data (such as the 2006 Corker-Ford Senate race in Tennessee). One particularly interesting result is Huber & Lapinski's 2006 article The “Race Card” Revisited: Assessing Racial Priming in Policy Contests (PDF). Let me first quote the description of their experiment, to make clear just what "explicit" and "implicit" racial messaging means:
In experiment A, the manipulated section of the advertisement varies in the text spoken by the announcer. The language is either neutral or explicitly racial. In the neutral language version, the middle section of the advertisement opens with a picture of an African American woman at the top of the frame. As the announcer states, “Too many welfare recipients take advantage of our tax dollars,” “Workfare not Welfare” appears below the picture. The announcer then continues, “To end dependency, we must require everyone receiving welfare to work,” as “Help End Dependency” appears below “Workfare not Welfare.” Following the IE model, we label this treatment as being implicitly racial. In the racial language version, the announcer’s first sentence is, “Too many welfare recipients, especially blacks, take advantage of our tax dollars.” [...] The remainder of the advertisement is the same. We label this version, per the IE model’s classification, as being explicitly racial.
These authors "confirm that individuals do tend to reject explicit appeals outright, but find that implicit appeals are no more effective than explicit ones in priming racial resentment in opinion formation." The apparent contradiction with Mendelberg's model is explained by considering an additional factor: the level of education of the viewer.
Among less-educated individuals, either implicit or explicit appeals appear somewhat effective in activating racial predispositions in opinion formation on non race-related policy. For candidates targeting this set of individuals, however, there is no clear advantage to offering an explicit message over an implicit one. Moreover, more-educated individuals do react more negatively to explicit appeals than implicit ones. These individuals appear relatively impervious to priming in any case, but candidates may still face real costs if they anger voters by violating perceived racial norms. Consequently, given that any effort to target racial messages to less-educated individuals might still reach some of these potential voters, there are large potential costs and no clear benefits to using explicitly racial language in campaign ads. Doing so risks public censure without offering clear priming benefits.
Overall, it is my impression that race is losing power as a lever with which to manipulate public opinion, even implicitly. (Note that this doesn't mean there aren't politicians still seeking to exploit it, or that such efforts don't still enjoy some success -- there are, and they do.) There are a couple reasons for this reduced relevance of race-based messages: Americans are becoming more tolerant, issues that offered a hook in the past (e.g., welfare) aren't politically relevant any longer, and given the current state of the economy/world prejudices are a luxury we can't afford. Consider this anecdote :
So a canvasser goes to a woman's door in Washington, Pennsylvania. Knocks. Woman answers. Knocker asks who she's planning to vote for. She isn't sure, has to ask her husband who she's voting for. Husband is off in another room watching some game. Canvasser hears him yell back, "We're votin' for the n***er!"
Woman turns back to canvasser, and says brightly and matter of factly: "We're voting for the n***er."
I guess that's progress of a sort, right? But there might be another reason that race-based appeals to voters aren't as prominent: the nature of leading black politicians. Consider this article from the American Prospect, titled "Young, Black, and Post-Civil Rights":
So how much has the country changed? This is the question of the moment as we watch the mutations in our national racial DNA triggered by Barack Obama's presidential campaign. Obama, we are reminded constantly, is a singular political talent. But he is in many ways the full flowering of a strain of up-tempo, non-grievance, American-Dream-In-Color politics. His counterparts are young, Ivy League professionals, heirs to the civil-rights movement who are determined to move beyond both the mood and the methods of their forebears.
[...] These new leaders are not what used to be called race men. They argue, somewhat convincingly, that they don't need to concern themselves primarily with the uplift of their race. They appeal to black voters, to be sure, but to white ones as well. They talk about income inequality, not black unemployment. They rail against inadequate educational opportunities, not the endemic poverty in black neighborhoods that results. They attack globalization and outsourcing, not necessarily the loss of high-wage, low-skill manufacturing jobs that built and sustained large working- and middle-class black communities after World War II.
Candidates who don't fit the stereotype of "typical black politician" are probably less vulnerable to attack ads based on activating innate prejudices, since viewers might be less likely to link negative views of blacks in general with those candidates.
The final reason why I see race-based messaging decreasing in use and relevance is the increasing sophistication of viewers and analysts. It's difficult to sneak a coded message past the 24/7 cable news chatterers and the hordes of excitable bloggers -- heck, sometimes they find "messages" that few people would have noticed! However, the debate over the RNC "Call Me" ad in the TN 2006 Senate election
illustrates that it is still difficult to establish a bipartisan consensus on what is or is not implicit racial messaging -- conservatives in general did not
view that ad as playing to stereotypes about black men and white women, while many liberals did interpret the ad in such a manner. Unfortunately any interest in objectively evaluating the content of the ad was lost in a loud chorus of accusations of racism and race-baiting (not from the candidates, though: Ford said
"I don't think race had anything to do with that ad" and Corker called
it tacky and asked for it to be pulled). As to the effect of this ad, it seems clear
that Ford lost ground in the polls shortly after it aired, but there were other events around that time (including Ford attempting to crash a Corker press conference, and of course the meta-level discussion of the ad) that could also explain the slide. Notice that his support in the polls actually slightly understated his performance on election day; there was no Bradley effect.
When we as a society can consistently and in good faith discuss whether an ad uses implicit racial messaging then the usefulness of this technique will be compromised. And I do mean we as a society; a black candidate who complains about implicit racial messaging is likely to face a large backlash, just given simple demographic realities. Academic work, including that cited above, establishes that implicit racial messaging is often not identified as objectionable, and a natural defensive reaction to the suggestion that a viewer missed implicit racial messaging is to hear an accusation of racism, strongly deny it, and accuse the critic of "playing the race card" or some such. Bizarrely, a campaign might benefit from using race implicitly in their advertising beyond any immediate influence on voters if they were able to provoke criticism from the opponent and convince voters that the black candidate was levying unfair accusations regarding their use of race. Hence, effective identification of such techniques would have to come from outside observers. Ideally viewers themselves would subject ads to analysis, attempting to compensate for their political biases, based on an understanding guided by work such as that described above. Something to keep in mind when you do this: political campaigns are perfectly free to employ "counter-stereotyping" in their advertisements to nullify the possibility of priming racial resentment through implicit messaging; for example, they could use an image of a white man when discussing urban crime, or avoid hot-button words like "welfare" when describing non-welfare related policies like taxes. If a campaign chooses not to do so, that is itself a data point worth considering, although obviously not conclusive.
So, this hopefully non-controversial introduction gives us some tools to decide for ourselves whether a campaign or ad is attempting to use race to influence perception. It's worth reiterating that this isn't the same thing as characterizing an ad, a campaign, or a candidate as racist, and it doesn't mean that viewers who respond to the tactic are racist, and it certainly doesn't mean that viewers who miss the implicit link to race are racist. Also, there are all kinds of sleazy tactics that campaigns can use (the most obvious being outright lying) and how one ranks particular techniques is subjective. That explicit appeals to race are recognized and rejected is good news. The next step is recognizing implicit appeals. I'd like to look at some ads in detail, and I hope we can bring "fresh eyes" to them, set aside preconceived notions, refrain from injecting incendiary terms or accusations, and simply examine the material.

Comments :
The discussion of race in this in this campaign
has puzzled me as follows:
Obama is only half black (and half white). The half black is from a father who was a native of Kenya. So he is not coming, in any way, from what we consider an American Black background, that is, his ancestors were not slaves, did not go thru reconstruction, segregation, and so on. He was raised mostly by his white mother and white grandparents, So in my eyes, and you can call me a typical white person, I don't see him as a typical black person. Further I am a bit baffled why so many American Blacks see him as their symbolic achievement. His background has very little in common with them, other than his half black skin color. I understand he married into American Black culture (Michelle), so maybe that's the connection in people's minds. And he occassionally affects the American black street way of talking, but it's obviously something he uses to connect with people, it's not the language he was brought up with by his Kenyan father, or his mother.
I understand he will get 95 % of the so-called black vote, but Al Gore and John Kerry got 90% of the black vote. I am not big on identity politics or voting, so I guess I find it hard to relate to Obama being the first Black President phenomenon.
name the enemy, win the war
Experience rather than history.
Regardless of his background or ethnic mix, Obama's experiences growing up were not that sharply differentiated from what you'd consider slave-descended black America: people on the streets don't discriminate based on origins but on perception of ethnicity based on superficial attributes. If you read what black bloggers say on this, it's pretty much in recognition of that common experience.
And in a broader sense, you can see it in the notion of the glass ceiling: if Obama is elected president, there certainly won't be a sense that that ceiling is broken only for black men who are not descended from slavery, right?
But there's also a more pernicious side to this argument - and I'm not accusing you of this, but please take this into account. If Obama had followed a completely different path in life and ended up, like many black men, on the evening news for peddling drugs, would people be parsing the fact that he's "half-black"? Probably not. "Half-black" only comes into the conversation when a person of color is successful: otherwise he's just a statistic. You'll find resistance to the "half-black" line on this front, since it's used as a weapon to deprive successful people of color of their common experience with those who are also multiracial but never acknowledged as such.
That doesn't mean that there's universal support or agreement on this line from black thinkers. Here are some interesting analyses that would combat the assumptions we make about Obama's atttitudes toward race, with an interesting critical perspective: here
and here 
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
Yes, that's true, but I suspect
that growing up his peers simply considered him black, and judging from some of the things he's written he attempted to fit into so-called black culture. I think American blacks were more slow to embrace his candidacy than people generally realize -- it wasn't until February
that Obama pulled a majority of black support: In December and January Post-ABC News polls, Clinton led Obama among African Americans by 60 percent to 20 percent. In the new poll, Obama held a narrow advantage among blacks, 44 percent to 33 percent.
Still, you're quite right that "black" is much too broad a category (as is "white") and that simply describing Obama as "black" doesn't really adequately capture his background (more here
).
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
from "race" to "ethnicity"
I think Americans have largely shifted their conception of "race" into a conception of culture/ethnicity. Even if Obama had absolutely no cultural connection to post-slavery American Blacks, his success is still symbolic of the death of white supremacy. There may still be cultural tension between Euro- and Afro- Americans, but such problems are much more solvable than tensions that are explicitly racial.
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
One of the positive things Obama has
done is to talk about the black family and the importance of the father staying with the family. I am hopeful that if Obama is elected (even though I'm voting McCain) that there could be some reduction of the out-of-wedlock births in the black family in America. But realistically, I'm not expecting any change in that life style.
name the enemy, win the war
Agree about fathers
It really scars a child to be raised without a father, and wonder why his father abandoned him, and leaves a lingering sense of low self esteem.
I would note that your statement also applies to other races, including poor whites, the common factor is often one of class as in being raised in poverty.
The key to avoiding out of wedlock births is sex education, and economic opportunities.
I'm only half stupid
Hmmm...
My lesbian friends who are raising children will be very disappointed to know that. :)
Luckily our kids will have TWO!
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
Foot in mouth.
I worded that poorly. Mea culpa
The unspoken difficulty is feeling abandoned by a father, and being raised in dire poverty by a single parent who might not be mature enough to cope, and is left feeling there is no opportunity to get out of a hopeless situation, although that is not always the case.
I have no problem with same sex couples raising children. :)
I'm only half stupid
heh, don't sweat it -
I knew that's not what you meant, but how could I pass up that opportunity!
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
Your lesbian friends should have thought about...
...that if they really cared about the kids.
It is a real issue and one that can't be undone later.
You talk about screwing up society from the inside out!
Selfishness.
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
rude much
Same sex couples provide a loving, healthy environment for raising children.
Often more so than heterosexual parents because they have a sense of compassion that you obviously don't share.
I'm only half stupid
Whatever
n/t
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
It is important for a child
to have role models of each gender, IMHO, but there are ways to accomplish that outside of a traditional father/mother family. The most important thing is that the parents love and take care of the child, something same-sex parents are perhaps particularly likely to do just because of the extra difficulty in having a child.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Dubious...
People who are out of whack with respect to their gender will bring that and whatever other baggage to bear regardless of the difficulty in getting their hands on a child.
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
poor chinese orphas...
I know a lesbian couple with kids.
Somehow, I doubt that those three chinese orphans will resent being raised by an American lesbian couple.
Maybe it's just a difference of opinion.
I won't bother to judge your sin(s).
In my expert opinion, you should do what I tell you to do.
Their are billions of Chinese who should be raising them.
n/t
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
RedWing:
I deleted a very long and very heated response to you, and instead I'm going to give you the links and let you educate yourself.
Educate yourself
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Educate yourself
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Educate yourself
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Educate yourself
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Educate yourself
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There's nothing uglier than making claims about people you don't know, based on a complete lack of information. You can remedy that by getting the facts.
Hopefully by the time I'm raising my kids, you'll have learned enough about this issue that we won't have to worry about you treating our kids like dirt, which is the single biggest challenge I'm going to face as a parent.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
I think that most people
who consider it less than optimal for a child to be raised by same-sex parents wouldn't treat the child "like dirt" for the alleged shortcomings of the parents. That's not how most of us react to the kids of parents who we view (rightly or wrongly) as inherently poorly suited for the task, after all.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Don't get me started on this, Brendan.
Telling kids they're in unhealthy households when they're very clearly not is pretty much what I'm talking about, and as those studies show the number one developmental hurdle these kids face is hostility from others who think they're in the 'wrong' kinds of families. I deleted a long profanity-laden post, so don't get me riled up on this one. This one is personal.
edit: not to belabor this point, but there's currently potential legislation in Arkansas to prevent "unmarried couples" (read: same-sex) from adopting children, so this is a long-going and very personal fight for some of us, especially considering such legislation means we can't live or work in certain areas of the country. And even in California the Yes on 8 crowd has been using children as a prop to wedge voters against same-sex marriage, by talking about how horrifying it is that children might be exposed to the notion of same-sex couples. What kind of effect does seeing these ads have 1. on children of same-sex couples, and 2. of children who are already starting to realize they themselves are different? It may not be directed AT them, but the end effect is a devaluation of their families and a marginalization of them as people. So I stand by what I said.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
Apologies, Brendan.
Too close to this issue to discuss it in the abstract, so I took a break for a day to cool off. Certainly don't mean to direct any aggression at you.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
Thanks, but no need (nt)
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Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Pico, no amount of studious alliteration...
...will change the empirical evidence that one who is at odds with the very body they inhabit is forced to face themselves.
As a personal choice, it is one I would never try to tell any individual is either appropriate, or immoral. However when that heteromorphic choice infringes on the greater social order, I feel as compelled to stand firm in my belief as you no doubtedly do in yours.
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
Ah the Greater Social Order
All the crap got started when women got the vote and started having their own careers.
A woman's place is in the kitchen.
I never broke the law; I am the law! --
George W. BushJudge DreddI'm listening to...
All together different...
n/t
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
Huh?
"at odds with the very body they inhabit"? "heteromorphic choice"?? Quit talking in euphemisms and spit it out, man!
skymutt: accept no substitutes!
I said what I meant very clearly.
n/t
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
Okay, I'll bite
What does "heteromorphic choice" mean?
skymutt: accept no substitutes!
When someone makes a change at some stage in their life.
n/t
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
This much is obvious
When Red_Wing is confronted with facts that completely refute his emotion-driven arguments, then he simply ignores them.
We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki
SL, I did not ignore them. But thanks for sharing?
A bunch of links from Gay and Lesbian advocacy groups and the like are hardly convincing of anything!
Besides, this is not a subjective issue, it is only your liberal, altruistic, wishes for some homogenized fantasy world that allows you to suggest otherwise.
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
Criminy!
The American Psychological Association, Medscape (from pico's links) and The Volokh Conspiracy (from mine, quoting the Wall Street Journal) are Gay and Lesbian advocacy groups?!?!
We are the environment. There is no distinction. What we do to the earth we do to ourselves. —David Suzuki
Geesh RW
I get that you feel you are standing athwart Civilization in the face of the great danger you perceive in this, but let's not be so, um, arrogant to think that thine own efforts will be what saves or damns the greater social order. We are but drops in a river whose source and destination are unknown to us.
Stand firm, by all means, if that makes you feel better. But don't fool yourself into thinking that it will actually accomplish anything except alienation.
"The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire." --R. Heinlein
Thanks for your comment...
I will, if it means being seen by liberals as out of touch with the lefts tolerance standards, so be it.
I do like your "drops in a river sensibility", and subscribe to that myself, I also am just practical in regards to what is and what isn't, and for a small segment of the population who has manifested some internal disconnect to impose that anomalous behavior on society at large is not appurtenant.
As I said, I have no issues with what people do, this is America and any individual has a right to do their own thing, but that ends when it walks out the threshold of their front door.
Look, the issue is not subjective, it is as obvious as the nose on your face if you will. ;-)
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
So I guess nobody should be allowed to adopt a child then
They might impose their "anomalous behavior" on the child. Of course, there won't be broad agreement on what "anomalous behaviour" is, so say for instance that I believe that belief in a god is "anomalous behavior", no believers should be able to adopt. I guess it's better to have the children in mass government orphanages, where anything that is considered by anyone to be "anomalous behavior" can be stamped out!
skymutt: accept no substitutes!
I think we can say confusion over one's...
..sexual identity is anomalous behavior.
What terminology would you prefer, abnormal behavior?
Then yes, you are correct, those exibiting abnormal social behavior should not be raising children.
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
I think that bizarre rituals with witch doctors are abnormal
So I guess that Sarah Palin should be prohibited from adopting, and perhaps ought to have her children taken away, huh?
skymutt: accept no substitutes!
Oh, I'm not confused at all.
I haven't been confused since I was a kid.
But since you've broached the topic, do you have a particular set of criteria for which kinds of "abnormal social behaviors" would disqualify one from raising children, or have you really thought this through?
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
Be very careful
Perhaps I think that teaching children Buddhism is abnormal behavior. In fact, by the definition, practicing Buddhists are abnormal in America. Christianity is normal.
How many gays who want to adopt don't really know if they're gay?
I never broke the law; I am the law! --
George W. BushJudge DreddI'm listening to...
Can I ask for a clarification here?
How does my marriage affect you outside of my front door? How is it an imposition on you?
I'm just curious because I've heard this argument before, but I've not heard anything concrete in terms of what this actually means.
On the other hand, the push to ban marriage and/or adoption is a legal act that crosses my threshold and enters my house. My values have no impact on yours. Your values get to decide mine. There's the disconnect.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
An Aside
I think most people are aware of this study
that reinforces Hermann Hesse's
quote of: "If you hate a person, you hate something in him that is part of yourself. What isn't part of ourselves doesn't disturb us."
The study found that, for whatever reason, only males with a negative attitude of male homosexuals were aroused by male homosexual images. Men with non-negative views on homosexual men were not aroused when shown the same images.
In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
Pico, I am certainly not saying anything to insinuate...
...being gay makes a person bad, or immoral, or in possession of a poor character, or any of the stereotypical old euphemisms people have attached to homosexuality in the past.
The argument is much broader and substantial, but at it's core is this;
As I said before, I am in favor of everyone pursuing their happiness...so long as it does not infringe on the rights of others.
That being said, I obviously do not see homosexuals being granted the status of marriage "a right", and furthermore believe that eventuality would indeed compromise the rights of American society at large for the reasons I have previously mentioned.
I like you, and think you are a thoughtful, intelligent individual, as are many of my gay friends. I only wish them, as I do you, nothing but the best in life, however I am afraid I can not rationalize the lawful condoning of, or legitimizing of, an acceptance of behavior that is fundamentally contrary to the laws and course of nature's intrinsic constitution.
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
I appreciate the kind response.
I'm still not sure I understand what you mean when you discuss this potential infringing on the rights of others, but I do genuinely appreciate your comment. Thank you.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
What acts/processes are Naturally Intrinsic to you?
People have sexual relations with whatever adult they are attracted to sexually, what can be more naturally intrinsic than that.
So do you support anti-sodomy laws in all forms?
What about contraception being used every time during heterosexual copulation?
Women with a tubal ligation getting married?
Men with a vasectomy getting married?
Intersexual people getting married?
Should a man and women that want to marry, but would decide not to have kids be allowed to marry?
Or is it that people with the same genitalia cannot marry since they cannot reproduce?
Or is one group that cannot have reproduce that much different?
Is it that marriage is only "naturally intrinsic" because only a generic "man" and generic "woman" can conceive and raise a child? And if those paired "man" and "woman" cannot or will not conceive a child, is marriage is still permissible?
In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
marriage is a status granted
as a legal contract. by the state. It can be ceremonially sanctioned by the church but doesn't have to be.
Do you want the state to take away your right to enter into a legal contract with a person of your chosing?
I'm only half stupid
Yes, sir I do bite my thumb sir.
Forty years ago, that comment could apply to any potential child of Jim Brown and Raquel Welsh
or Montague-Capulet child of a previous century.
In our society, people are rewarded for pretending to be certain about things they're clearly not certain about. -- Sam Harris,
Again, totally a different issue.
n/t
Underlying all arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself. ~M. Friedman
By the way, Brendan -
I agree with your idea in general, that we need to arm ourselves with the right analytical tools before we launch into a discussion of whether a political ad is racist, racial, race-baiting, or completely benign.
Maybe after the election has cleared the air a bit, we can look back at some of the bigger explosions over whether or not certain tactics were racist in nature, and we can dissect them, their impact, and the type of discussion they launched. It'd be much better if we had a few bloggers of color on here, but I can always search through archives and see what they said about these issues at the time they aired.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce
I imagine the conservatives would be amused
as we resurrect the fireworks of the primary season =)
One thing I can say with the utmost confidence: all the campaigns this year were better than their online supporters.
Come, my friends. 'Tis not too late to seek a newer world -- Tennyson
Agreed on both counts,
but I enjoy a good post-mortem. They're hard to do when the issues are still present because of lingering Strong Opinions, but I think it'll be worthwhile once the environment cools a bit. And hey, since the conservatives here are so outnumbered, they might enjoy having our shortcomings laid bare.
Saint, n. A dead sinner revised and edited. - Ambrose Bierce